God this is more entertaining than 2016 On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 10:12 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Barr is a Trump puppet. > https://www.facebook.com/1542846845827136/posts/3249813925130411/?sfnsn=mo > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 7:07 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > >> The only thing just getting started is the next level of FUD from the DUD >> >> On 11/9/20 5:51 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote: >> >> From Wikipedia: *The Gateway Pundit* is an American far-right >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_right_(United_States)>[9] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit#cite_note-9> news and >> opinion website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, >> and conspiracy theories >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories>.[17] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit#cite_note-17> >> >> If someone has credible evidence that would overturn the election, it >> should absolutely be brought before the courts. At the moment, all of the >> evidence seems to point to a fair election where Donald Trump lost by over >> 4,000,000 votes. >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 7:34 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Bullshit ..pure Bullshit >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 5:39 PM justsumname <unixday...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> this thing is just getting started, gents. It's only Monday. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-ag-barr-authorizes-federal-prosecutors-pursue-substantial-allegations-voting-irregularities-2020-election-certified/ >>>> >>>> RealClearPolitics un-calls Pennsylvania for Biden. The state is grey >>>> on their map, now. Was Blue yesterday. >>>> >>>> I do not understand the vitriol against Mr Trump. He's been an >>>> excellent President for all Americans. >>>> No I didn't ask... I can read everyone's comments, and I have. For >>>> years. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 6:16 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wish they could invent a secure method to vote online. But it has >>>>> to be resistant to buying and selling votes. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 9, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's pretty straight forward to verify integrity of the vote. We have >>>>> already dont it with covid test results. We are blind ballot meaning no >>>>> one >>>>> can see who you voted for. Covid result eliminated anyone's ability to >>>>> claim their vote was stolen or manipulated since you can check your >>>>> results >>>>> with your code. You can do the same without recording a name. >>>>> If there is any question of validity in a count, it can be verified, >>>>> fairly quickly. >>>>> >>>>> Covid built us a system to have a secure vote. Inadvertant side >>>>> effects are the best side effects. >>>>> You register, you are assigned your key. Your registration can be >>>>> verified legitimate. You can even vote online. The tracing infrastructure >>>>> can be used to canvass a contested district for verification of vote >>>>> accuracy. >>>>> >>>>> This is the last election where fraud can be claimed... inadvertant, >>>>> as is most of the left's mistakes >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 12:20 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The advantage to that is that the records will probably last a long >>>>>> time. OTOH, storage might become an issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> bp >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/9/2020 10:16 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> In our county, we have to quarry a stone tablet, cart it down to the >>>>>> office, make an X with a tar crayon, and be able to lift on to the ballet >>>>>> cart to have the vote count. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Our county typically uses touchscreen machines for in-person voting, >>>>>>> both early and day-of. (A paper tape record is also printed out and >>>>>>> can be >>>>>>> verified by the voter) Obviously these are very quick to process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Early voting sites were open for 15 days prior to the election. In >>>>>>> addition, there was one early voting site open 40 days prior to the >>>>>>> election, but it used paper ballots. Basically you filled out the same >>>>>>> form as a mail-in ballot, sealed it, and dropped it in a box. That’s >>>>>>> how I >>>>>>> voted and I was disappointed that was the process, I thought they would >>>>>>> scan them through a “tabulator” as the last step, just like back when we >>>>>>> used paper ballots for day-of voting. I expected as the last step >>>>>>> before >>>>>>> leaving I would feed the paper ballot into a scanner. Instead I sealed >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> in an envelope and dropped it in a box. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the paper ballots including early in-person and mail-in were >>>>>>> required to sit in the locked boxes until something like 7am on election >>>>>>> day before they could start processing them. This was apparently also >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> case in many battleground states. They weren’t even allowed to open the >>>>>>> envelopes, uncrease the forms, check signatures, nothing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM >>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the rest of >>>>>>> the state), they count them as they come in, but hold the results in a >>>>>>> secure area until the close of the in-person polls. Ballots that are >>>>>>> postmarked (if they were mailed) up until the day of the election will >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> accepted for a certain amount of time, but I don't know how long that >>>>>>> is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We also have an online ballot tracking system. After we dropped our >>>>>>> ballots off, we could go to a ballot status web site that told us (1) if >>>>>>> the ballot had been received, and (2) if it had been accepted. It took >>>>>>> 48 >>>>>>> hours for our ballots to show up in that system. I presume if our >>>>>>> ballots >>>>>>> had not been accepted, there is some sort of mechanism to go fix that, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> I've never had to use it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/9/2020 7:25 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, some states are doing exactly that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 8:09 AM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Scan them as they go, but don't publish the ongoing count. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/8/2020 4:45 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think vote by mail and scan them as they arrive is the way to go. >>>>>>> That way when the polls close you have an immediate count. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 2:38 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole punch card voting "system" was doomed from the beginning. >>>>>>> I remember using it when I lived in Santa Clara County 30 years ago or >>>>>>> so. >>>>>>> Even when you punched out a hole properly, the chads would sometime >>>>>>> stick >>>>>>> or hang on a corner. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For quite some time now, we've been using the paper ballots where >>>>>>> you fill in the square or the circle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've also been registered as a permanent absentee for over a decade. >>>>>>> When I voted (almost a month ago now), we filled out our ballots at the >>>>>>> kitchen counter, and took them to a drop box the next day when we were >>>>>>> running errands in town. The actual act of "voting" (if you want to >>>>>>> call it >>>>>>> that) took less than 1 minute as we just dropped the ballots off at one >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> dozens of drop boxes all over the county.Our county has (IIRC) 39 drop >>>>>>> boxes for a population of ~~ 750,000, or about 1 drop box for every >>>>>>> 20,000 >>>>>>> people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pennsylvania still hasn't started counting the late arrival absentee >>>>>>> ballots. All of the ones they've counted so far arrived before November >>>>>>> 3, >>>>>>> but for reasons I don't understand were not allowed to be counted until >>>>>>> after the day-of voting. From the things I've read, there are only about >>>>>>> 85,000 of them, and they are unlikely to do anything but extend Biden's >>>>>>> cushion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I (for one) would be in favor of uniform voting/counting standards. >>>>>>> Perhaps it would be a violation of state's rights, but on the other >>>>>>> hand, >>>>>>> there would be a lot less confusion when the time for voting comes >>>>>>> around. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/8/2020 11:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stop the vote in Pennsylvania but keep counting in Arizona. It’s a >>>>>>> Maxwell’s Demon approach. Open the door when it helps me, close the >>>>>>> door >>>>>>> when it helps the other guy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That’s probably why the Supremes stopped the recounts in Bush v >>>>>>> Gore, the Gore camp wanted to keep looking for errors but only in the >>>>>>> counties where they thought it would help them. But also the votes had >>>>>>> already been counted (and recounted). And there was the original >>>>>>> Florida >>>>>>> Man, some guy named Hanging Chad? And the phone call and the >>>>>>> retraction. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Democrats to this day take it as gospel that Gore was robbed. That >>>>>>> does not bode well for half the country moving on from this election. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On >>>>>>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 12:02 PM >>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're demanding >>>>>>> a decount. In Georgia it's opposites day. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmFVEi5Jd0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/7/2020 8:27 PM, justsumname wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The declaration that Biden has won is premature. This thing hasn't >>>>>>> really gotten started yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Judges don't hold court on the weekends. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jaime Solorza < >>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes good movie. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> More akin to today is Seven Days in May...March, Douglas, >>>>>>> Lancaster... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 4:22 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Founding Fathers didn’t account for the rise of political >>>>>>> parties, which came soon enough. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Original_plan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Somehow I’m reminded of the movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. >>>>>>> Set in the fading days of the old west with territories becoming states >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> deciding who to elect as their representatives. Should it be Jimmy >>>>>>> Stewart >>>>>>> the righteous lawyer, or Lee Marvin the outlaw gang leader? The old >>>>>>> fashioned idea that you sent the brightest and best educated person to >>>>>>> Washington to represent you. Hah! Politicians are not held in great >>>>>>> esteem today, and we would probably vote for Liberty Valance. I assume >>>>>>> everyone has seen the movie. It’s an old John Ford western, in fact he >>>>>>> shot it in B&W, but it’s a must see. Look at the cast – Jimmy Stewart, >>>>>>> John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmond O’Brien, John >>>>>>> Caradine, Lee Van Cleef. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM >>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The three-fifths compromise was enacted long before California >>>>>>> existed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/7/2020 12:54 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Uhhhh. No. The EC was created so that California has the same voice >>>>>>> power as Rhode Island. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could have been over on Tuesday if we didn't have the silly >>>>>>> Electoral College shenanigans; which actually evolved from the crazy >>>>>>> slave >>>>>>> is 3/5 of a person nonsense. Here we are ~~ 250 years later and we're >>>>>>> still >>>>>>> dealing with decisions we made about slaves. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/7/2020 11:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have spoken. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Righteous Indignation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Lewis Bergman >>>>>> 325-439-0533 Cell >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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