One day, mid day Michael was upset because someone cross posted or wrongly 
posted something about Motorola in a Trango list or some such thing.  He was 
pretty much a list nazi about that because you had to subscribe to each list 
and he didn’t want Motorola folks from answering Trango questions if they were 
not a subscriber to both lists or something like that.  

In any event he was grouchy and trying to police this kind of stuff.  And then 
he sent an email with I QUIT as the subject line.
Then, like immediately, the list serve went down and stayed down.  I was 
getting emails all afternoon about it and so I had my guys start up a list 
serv, put all the Motorola people on it and away we go.  

In a day or two, Michael became aware his site was down and fixed it but by 
then ... the barn door had been left open.

I am sure he never forgave me.  But we did it out of a want to keep in contact 
rather than malice.  We had no idea the meaning of I QUIT.  As it turns out he 
was just frustrated and the outage was just coincidental.

Pretty sure part 15 went out of business because of this.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 6:57 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk

What was the deal with Bullit anyway?  Some sort of control issues?



On 12/2/2020 4:59 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:



  From: Paul McCall 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:52 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

  Its all good Ken 😊


  Didn’t mean to sound defensive LOL.


  But if I get any more crap, I QUIT  hahahah


  (only us “long-times” will get that reference)


  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:29 PM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs


  I didn’t mean that to be an insult, more like kudos, you honey badger you.


  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Paul McCall
  Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 3:16 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs


  Not in total agreement with that assessment Ken.   


  20 years of having a fixed wireless division without really working 
aggressively for customer acquisition, over 1000 customers, while doing a bunch 
of other things.  Network running like a well-oiled machine, less than 10 tech 
phone calls per 24 hours, sometimes just 2 or 3.  We are well aware of future 
proofing and are doing that wherever possible.  I think we have a few years at 
least even at 2.4, running 45 degree sectors, and smaller fill towers.  We 
overlay what we can in 5 Ghz to give peak speeds.  Licensed BH links wherever 
possible.   If I had a local company that could provide 50Mbit plans for less 
than Mr. musk, I would take it all day long.  Not everyone would of course.  
ATT has had fixed wireless in 80% of our coverage area, and we have lost 4 
customers in 2 years to it.


  But, I have other businesses, and a recording musician if that industry ever 
comes back.


  They key is to be a honey badger at whatever you are doing!


  I’m good 😊



  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:07 PM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs


  You are a brave man trying to make a business out of NLOS fixed wireless.  On 
the one hand, it’s magic not science.  On the other hand, Elon Musk and 
T-Mobile are wanting to eat your lunch, not to mention government funded fiber.


  I think it’s like getting people to pay to see you juggle running chainsaws, 
while they could instead watch Netflix or play Call Of Duty.  Very difficult, 
yet customers would rather be doing something else.



  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
  Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:49 PM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
  Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs


  Theodolite will.  


  From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
  Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:37 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs


  LOL, definitely not in LOS territory.  90% of our rural stuff won’t see the 
towers.


  We use tower coverage as well, but it doesn’t show the angle (degrees) to the 
tower.


  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:53 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs


  When an account (in Powercode) is made through Towercoverage API, it'll add 
the estimated signals to the tower starting with the closest ones.  That ticket 
could always be pulled up.


  As far as alignment, I would think you're in LOS territory with 5 GHz so once 
you know where the tower is, you can aim for it by eyeball instead of app.



  Josh Luthman
  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:44 PM Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

    We have that… looking for more of a compass time app that will point him to 
a tower, based on stored LAT / LONG


    From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
    Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:15 PM
    To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
    Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs


    Google Earth


    From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
    Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 10:07 AM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs


    Anyone have a favorite app??  (android or iPhone) for putting in the 
LAT/LONG of all the towers, so that the newbies have a general direction to a 
tower from their location.


    Looking to import (or type them) in all the towers..


    Thanks!


    Paul McCall, President 

    Florida Broadband / PDMNet

    658 Old Dixie Highway

    Vero Beach, FL 32962

    772-564-6800


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