As the man that purchased his network, an outage on his network isn't 
surprising. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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From: "Chuck McCown via AF" <af@af.afmug.com> 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@go-mtc.com> 
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 1:31:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk 




One day, mid day Michael was upset because someone cross posted or wrongly 
posted something about Motorola in a Trango list or some such thing. He was 
pretty much a list nazi about that because you had to subscribe to each list 
and he didn’t want Motorola folks from answering Trango questions if they were 
not a subscriber to both lists or something like that. 

In any event he was grouchy and trying to police this kind of stuff. And then 
he sent an email with I QUIT as the subject line. 
Then, like immediately, the list serve went down and stayed down. I was getting 
emails all afternoon about it and so I had my guys start up a list serv, put 
all the Motorola people on it and away we go. 

In a day or two, Michael became aware his site was down and fixed it but by 
then ... the barn door had been left open. 

I am sure he never forgave me. But we did it out of a want to keep in contact 
rather than malice. We had no idea the meaning of I QUIT. As it turns out he 
was just frustrated and the outage was just coincidental. 

Pretty sure part 15 went out of business because of this. 




From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 6:57 AM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk 


What was the deal with Bullit anyway? Some sort of control issues? 


On 12/2/2020 4:59 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: 










From: Paul McCall 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:52 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs 



Its all good Ken 😊 

Didn’t mean to sound defensive LOL. 

But if I get any more crap, I QUIT hahahah 

(only us “long-times” will get that reference) 



From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:29 PM 
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs 

I didn’t mean that to be an insult, more like kudos, you honey badger you. 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Paul McCall 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 3:16 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs 

Not in total agreement with that assessment Ken. 

20 years of having a fixed wireless division without really working 
aggressively for customer acquisition, over 1000 customers, while doing a bunch 
of other things. Network running like a well-oiled machine, less than 10 tech 
phone calls per 24 hours, sometimes just 2 or 3. We are well aware of future 
proofing and are doing that wherever possible. I think we have a few years at 
least even at 2.4, running 45 degree sectors, and smaller fill towers. We 
overlay what we can in 5 Ghz to give peak speeds. Licensed BH links wherever 
possible. If I had a local company that could provide 50Mbit plans for less 
than Mr. musk, I would take it all day long. Not everyone would of course. ATT 
has had fixed wireless in 80% of our coverage area, and we have lost 4 
customers in 2 years to it. 

But, I have other businesses, and a recording musician if that industry ever 
comes back. 

They key is to be a honey badger at whatever you are doing! 

I’m good 😊 




From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:07 PM 
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs 

You are a brave man trying to make a business out of NLOS fixed wireless. On 
the one hand, it’s magic not science. On the other hand, Elon Musk and T-Mobile 
are wanting to eat your lunch, not to mention government funded fiber. 

I think it’s like getting people to pay to see you juggle running chainsaws, 
while they could instead watch Netflix or play Call Of Duty. Very difficult, 
yet customers would rather be doing something else. 




From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:49 PM 
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < af@af.afmug.com > 
Cc: Chuck McCown < ch...@go-mtc.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs 

Theodolite will. 



From: AF [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Paul McCall 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:37 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs 

LOL, definitely not in LOS territory. 90% of our rural stuff won’t see the 
towers. 

We use tower coverage as well, but it doesn’t show the angle (degrees) to the 
tower. 


From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:53 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs 



When an account (in Powercode) is made through Towercoverage API, it'll add the 
estimated signals to the tower starting with the closest ones. That ticket 
could always be pulled up. 



As far as alignment, I would think you're in LOS territory with 5 GHz so once 
you know where the tower is, you can aim for it by eyeball instead of app. 






Josh Luthman 
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 




On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:44 PM Paul McCall < pa...@pdmnet.net > wrote: 
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We have that… looking for more of a compass time app that will point him to a 
tower, based on stored LAT / LONG 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:15 PM 
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < af@af.afmug.com > 
Cc: Chuck McCown < ch...@go-mtc.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs 

Google Earth 



From: AF [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Paul McCall 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 10:07 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs 

Anyone have a favorite app?? (android or iPhone) for putting in the LAT/LONG of 
all the towers, so that the newbies have a general direction to a tower from 
their location. 

Looking to import (or type them) in all the towers.. 

Thanks! 

Paul McCall, President 
Florida Broadband / PDMNet 
658 Old Dixie Highway 
Vero Beach, FL 32962 
772-564-6800 

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