Their support is behaving the same way exactly. They told me to take the 
watchdog off and allow the internet to be frozen (downtime for all my 
customers) whenever it happens at any random point in the day/night while I 
rush to log into it with a serial cable. The absurdity of it. Luckily I told 
him from day one that I have a CONSOLE SERVER and that I log all the serial 
output of all my switches and routers. But even though I told them that a 
couple times they still requested I plug in a serial cable and wait for it to 
freeze. So I'm like .. hellooo there is a serial cable plugged in at all times! 
I told him there is no output. It just reboots. I even humored him and turned 
the watchdog off and we had a reboot on the weekend while the cable was plugged 
in and the console was logged in. I even had logging set to echo for a lot of 
things and nothing.. just a hard freeze. 

There is no BGP on this one and the processor is not high leading up to the 
crash at all. Updated 5 times already and its just a placebo. They need to get 
their shit together. 

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From: "Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com> 
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 12:59:09 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations 

This last year, I've seen a MikroTik CCR1072 switch from long being rock-solid 
to now having occasional random reboots (from watchdog) or 100% CPU usage, 
which strangles the BGP process. In the latter case, tools->profile would show 
the firewall taking 100% of CPU, even after temporarily disabling all firewall 
filter and NAT rules and connection tracking. Not fun. 

MT tech support did not seem super helpful or interested, mostly recommending 
to disable watchdog (unacceptable on a production router) or to upgrade 
firmware (without specifying the suspected cause of the problem or nature of 
the fix). 

Tried 1 update, that didn't seem to help, have now tried another... 


On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 11:38 PM Steven Kenney < [ mailto:st...@wavedirect.org | 
st...@wavedirect.org ] > wrote: 



MIkrotik has been rock solid for me for years. Until this year and the 1072's. 
Random reboots set off by watchdog timer on all of my 1072's. Some more than 
others. Threads in the forum all discuss the same problem exactly. Its a 
connection tracking issue.. however I need connection tracking on one 
particular router. I've adjusted everything I could. Firmware and board 
firmware all up to date etc. Happens randomly with low levels of traffic, high 
levels of traffic, sometimes a couple times a day, sometimes weeks. No DDOS 
evidence at all from upstream routers. Configs checked and rechecked by third 
party experts. I graph everything about the Mikrotik and there are no clues or 
anything abnormal happening before the crash. Plenty of memory, disk space, CPU 
etc. Replaces all the trannies, power cables and such. Not running BGP only 
OSPF on the one that is giving me the most trouble. 

Even have a serial console cable plugged into them to my opengear and set it to 
log pretty much everything to console including the kernel and nothing. A hard 
freeze. 

Then there is Mikrotik support... I've never needed their support before until 
now. So I put a ticket in and the shitty attitude I'm getting from them seems 
like they KNOW there is something wrong with the hardware and they are 
intentionally not being helpful. It is pretty clear to see with all the people 
reporting this issue that there IS an issue. 

If this is any indication of how things are going to go with Mikrotik on the 
newer hardware going forware I think its time to jump to an enterprise level 
system. Juniper most likely. Shame because they are just about keeping up with 
the demands with their hardware. Getting closer to 100Gbps etc and ROS7 ... but 
at their current pace I think we've outgrew them. 

All the threads discussing this issue has been absolutely quiet when it comes 
to Mikrotik jumping in to mention or try to help troubleshoot. I think they 
know they had bad hardware out there and do not want to honor warranties. I've 
heard rumors of bad batches of 1072's. 

Anyone else encounter this? 



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