But my core charge...

The ones that are possibly good are still 6 years old and I don't have any
interest in deploying something that old.

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On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 4:56 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> It will take 5 minutes to finger the bad one.  At least if you are going
> to change them all, don’t toss the good ones.  Just kill the power and take
> voltage readings.  The good ones will all read similar.  Bad ones drop
> quickly.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2020 2:03 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Custom batteries on APC Smart UPS 750XL
>
> Well I'm just going to replace all 4 of them then (12v batteries wired for
> 24v).  No sense in trying to figure out which one is bad IMO - $300 and a
> wrench I'll be done in an hour.
>
> Thanks for the sanity check!
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 3:53 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, best to periodically discharge it and take volts per cell or volts
>> per battery every few minutes.  The bad cell/battery will start to make
>> itself evident very quickly.  I have a charger setup that does this for me
>> automatically.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:48 PM
>> *To:* AFMUG
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Custom batteries on APC Smart UPS 750XL
>>
>> These batteries: https://www.batteriesplus.com/productdetails/97=479=1
>>
>> I first installed this system just under 6 years ago.  We've lost power a
>> couple of times, but only for a short while (30-45 minutes).  I remember it
>> saying something stupid like 7 hours of run time.  I have no idea how APC
>> calculates this.
>>
>> Today we had another outage, where a phase went out, and it switched over
>> to batteries again.  It said something like 30 minutes of run time!
>> Luckily I ran upstairs and after 10-15 minutes, it was really pissed that
>> it didn't have power and angrily beeped that it was nearly ready to give up
>> (at which point I put it on the generator).
>>
>> After a few hours we got utility back up and I moved the UPS back over.
>> After lunch I wanted to test the battery voltages, but in the 5 seconds it
>> was unplugged it got really pissed again so I plugged it back in.
>>
>> With the charger on it, each battery individually is showing me 13.83v.
>>
>> In the first 10 minutes of the day without power, battery voltage went
>> from 27.6 down to 22.36.  This confirms I have at least one bad battery,
>> right?  The load is roughly ~83 watts according to the UPS.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
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>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
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