OSPF issues are caused by the users 99% of the time. Incorrect configurations, or improper configurations. Just cause it works, does not mean it’s a good or correct config. It is only good till it breaks due to your config. Just stating.
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I brought up a few examples of 1072 reliability issues from this thread in another group of Mikrotik-smart people and the consensus was that none of them had seen a 1072 reliability issue that wasn't the cause of someone using it incorrectly. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com&umid=9F438558-B956-2B05-B37B-17F51F6D2D37&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-a7fadb0361daf670e8b6eb0528feb5220ea246e4> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 2:20:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming While I haven't seen that myself, it sure sounds like you're comparing the hardware reliability of a $50 hex versus a $10,000 Juniper or Cisco. Remember this started with a need for 1-2 gig of traffic and fear of using Mikrotik for that job. Only time I've personally had issues with OSPF is on older versions or bad RF links. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:14 PM Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com<mailto:c...@infowest.com>> wrote: Software updates for one. We have hundreds of hex units out there. We push out security upgrades regularly. Often times one doesnt come up after the upgrade and will need to be swapped as it’s dead. OSPF on routeros is also where we’ve had plenty of issues. We’ve just decided to pull OSPF all together on the leaf ones that have it configured so networks are more stable. On Jan 19, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: Where have you seen it be not stable? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com&umid=9F438558-B956-2B05-B37B-17F51F6D2D37&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-a7fadb0361daf670e8b6eb0528feb5220ea246e4> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Cassidy B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com<mailto:c...@infowest.com>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 12:59:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming It’s like playing Jenga. It’s stable until you start making changes. You keep running the risk of it toppling over after every change, or it could continue to be stable until the next change :) On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:56, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: Not a binary thing. Less stable than others perhaps. From: Ryan Ray Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:20 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:48 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: The route filters is one. There certainly are others, but I've had the same experiences with brand new iron with support contracts. Shit happens. Saying the platform isn't stable is disingenuous when there are many people using it successfully in a variety of environments. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com&umid=9F438558-B956-2B05-B37B-17F51F6D2D37&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-a7fadb0361daf670e8b6eb0528feb5220ea246e4> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Ryan Ray" <ryan...@gmail.com> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:44:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming I think you're being disingenuous if you're saying that you have never run into an error or bug on Mikrotik where the only fix is a reboot or to shut services on or off or bring an interface down then up. On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:36 AM Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote: That's cool, I'm happy for you. In our experience Mikrotik isn't stable on the Long Term branches. On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:34 AM Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote: Yet some of us run hundreds of tik routers and 16 plus gb of traffic all day erry day. It's about know how to make the tools work. On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 3:04 PM Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote: Cause it's not a stable platform. On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: Why would you be surprised when Mikrotik worked? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ics%2dil.com&umid=9F438558-B956-2B05-B37B-17F51F6D2D37&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-a7fadb0361daf670e8b6eb0528feb5220ea246e4> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Dev" <d...@logicalwebhost.com> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 2:20:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming Even used Juniper gear will lead to far less sleepless nights than MT, a lot easier to find experts too. And they’re just…less Mikrotiky. People are surprised when Mikrotik works, people are surprised when Juniper doesn’t, that’s the difference. On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:24 AM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: I use it for my FTTH delivery system. GPON. 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