Yeah, that’s for sure. For the moment we put full tables on multiple upstreams on 10Gbps interface on 1072 and they run fine at 5-6Gbps of peak traffic each.
I wouldn’t push it much further than that though. We just even out the load between all of them for now, until we migrate to CHR for BGP. And then after CHR Mikrotik BGP we plan on Juniper gear, especially if we limit the carriers upstreams. But I doubt that, our network runs such that it’s “easy” to get another 10Gbps upstream on full table BGP and assign another Mikrotik 1072 or CHR to it. Then we have multiple redundance, less peak and average going through the majority of them and can gracefully handle downtime of one single provider for now. All under the one time cost of a single Juniper router. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 11:56 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Official Limitations Eh, it depends on what you're trying to do with it, as always. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Steven Kenney" <st...@wavedirect.org<mailto:st...@wavedirect.org>> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 12:47:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Official Limitations Just word to the wise - prepare to ditch Mikrotik as soon as you near 10Gbps traffic. Their upper echelon hardware doesn't pass the muster. [logo]<https://www.wavedirect.net/> [https://www.wavedirect.net/imgs/Facebook.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed> [https://www.wavedirect.net/imgs/Instagram.png] <https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/> [https://www.wavedirect.net/imgs/LinkedIn.png] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/> [https://www.wavedirect.net/imgs/Twitter.png] <https://twitter.com/wavedirect1> [https://www.wavedirect.net/imgs/Youtube.png] <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect> STEVEN KENNEY DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON E: st...@wavedirect.org<mailto:st...@wavedirect.org> | P: 519-737-9283 W: www.wavedirect.net<http://www.wavedirect.net> ________________________________ From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 1:42:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Official Limitations +1 On 3/1/2021 1:41 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Yeah, that’s why there is justification for using Mikrotik “garbage”. Mikrotik has got us where we are and allowed us to grow and grow our small team without a large upfront cost. And then migrate to bigger and better. Done this method a few times now and it’s worked out well. Moral of the story is, work the best with what you have and know your platform. I know Mikrotik. I can get angry and do have my rows with vendors and manufacturers, but we learn where we can reliably use what hardware over time. Starting from ground zero I would definitely use Mikrotik again since I know it and what it can and cannot do. But I am looking forward to the day when we invest in an MX series of highly available routers/platform. Just like it would be awesome if I had enough money up front to run all Cambium M and Terragraph for our WISP side lol From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com><mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 11:06 AM To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Official Limitations It's 5 digit numbers, however you choose to label it. The good news is one box will scale to staggering amounts of traffic. On 3/1/2021 1:03 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Corvette money. Is that anything like cubic dollars? bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 3/1/2021 9:51 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: CGNAT on Juniper requires an IP services card. With licensing it's like Corvette money. ....but that's kinda where we're at isn't it. On 3/1/2021 12:36 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: I gave up the first time they asked me to record data for them during an instance and wanted us to let it hang and collect data. I was like no, not going to do that. And then started removing 1072 connection tracking altogether from my network. For the time being I’m using 1036 for CGNAT as a transition, then will head to CHR CGNAT, then Juniper. I agree that Mikrotik just isn’t focused on the 1072 anymore and this particular issue seems beyond them to repair. Which makes the 1072 a no starter for anything conn track for us ever again. I’ve got one 2004 doing the CGNAT now, and it’s on latest Stable release. Watching to see if it bails too, or is capable of doing it for the time being. But our end game it MPLS/VPLS and/or direct switch VLAN type segmentation of layer2 into our cores where we will do all of the heavy lifting. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com><mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steven Kenney Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:03 AM To: af <af@af.afmug.com><mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Official Limitations Still fighting with Mikrotik about the 1072 reboots. New hardware didn't fix it, had several people check the configs all were good. After 2 months of going back and forth, escalating to a higher tier tech... I officially got a response that 1 million connections is too much for the 1072 and I should expect it to reboot and not function properly. That was their conclusion. Even though all of the 72 processors are under 50%, memory usage is only about 20% etc. Turn off connection tracking is the their solution. How about those apples? 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