That's what I'm seeing as well I guess.  Can't get more SNR, can't get more hertz.

The only path to improvement I see is really big beam forming array with even more MU-MIMO chains.  Cost will go up accordingly I think.

The alternate path would be millimeter wave with all the obvious caveats. Not trying to be a doomsayer, but I'm seeing a wall in front of me.


On 3/25/2021 6:30 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
It's seems to me that it would require a pretty radical change for fixed wireless to progress a whole lot beyond what it's currently capable of. Maybe 6ghz being opened up will allow for using much wider channels, and keep things interesting, but I don't see things like MU-MIMO being more than an incremental improvement, like practically everything over the past decade or so.

60ghz has the potential to be a true competitor to fiber, but that's going to require a completely different network design than what we're used to.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 11:39 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    In 10 years it will be trending to niche market for home use. We
    will have fiber to the farm so it is what it is.

    On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 11:26 AM jerry bickle
    <je...@rfdesignservices.com <mailto:je...@rfdesignservices.com>>
    wrote:

        Best to watch The Simpson’s for a glimpse into the future. 
        I’m pretty sure there’s time travel involved.

        I think RF Design hasn’t evolved much.  Simple N=1 reuse and
        cell splits are the method that’s been used successfully for
        decades.  Going smaller isn’t innovative.  MiMo is a big leap
        however.  Broader channels are the only way to deliver huge
        bandwidth.  Going higher and higher QAM doesn’t work well for
        mobile handsets and the diminishing returns and crazy timing
        necessary to maintain a high QAM other than a lab are not
        practical.  Small cells are UGLY.  They’re also close to the
        people and EMR is a concern to many.  The FCC has guidelines
        that I do trust but we’re not dealing with sites that are 100’
        tall and every 1/2 mile now.  They’re on just about every
        street corner.  Most carriers are digging up the streets to
        bring fiber to each of these poles.  It’s an expensive
        deployment.  802.11ax is the best innovation I’ve seen and it
        is truly 5G more than anything else that’s out there.  8x8 and
        12x12 MiMo and color coded streams for interference mitigation
        are a big difference maker.

        Jerry Bickle

        President

        RF Design Services, LLC

        Cell: 405.650.3366

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        *From: *AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Adam Moffett
        <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
        *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
        *Date: *Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM
        *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
        *Subject: *[AFMUG] Wireless future

        Any opinions on where wireless technology will evolve in the
        next 5 years?

        There's a compound annual growth in demand, and trying to
        think about

        how manufacturers will meet that going forward.  I'm assuming
        we can't

        count on bigger channels or more spectrum.  So what then? 
        More MU-MIMO

        chains?  Or is it going to have to be street level small cells
        (60ghz

        etc)?  Or something else?

        We're investing heavily in fiber, as I know a lot of you are,
        but the

        wireless customers aren't going to go away.

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