We have homeschooled out son since 7th grade. He loves it. Now he attends a local VoTech engineering academy as well. He’s very bright. Public school wasn’t working for him. He loves the EPIC Charter School. I highly recommend it. It’s the fastest growing school in the state and a great option. We’re also a part of a coop of other kids and my son loves that, too. He’s not weird. The other mom’s and kids aren’t weird. There are many positive things for home schooling. I think with Covid madness and shutdowns, a lot of people are homeschooling anyway and finding that it works well for them.
Jerry Bickle President RF Design Services, LLC Cell: 405.650.3366 Fax: 405.330.1310 Email: je...@rfdesignservices.com<mailto:je...@rfdesignservices.com> WEB: www.rfdesignservices.com<http://www.rfdesignservices.com/> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 1:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: online k12 homeschool options I got thumped and choked by a few teachers, I was right at the end of the road for teachers being allowed to handle business properly. Now they allow kids like i was to disrupt everybody else. I was messing with this one kid at lunch one time because he had the same last name as me. After he had had enough, he popped me in the nose, probably broke it, but it resolved the situation and he was able to finish his grilled cheese in peace. Teachers saw it, even walked by while I mopped my nose. It was simple, I was being a bully, he was done being a bully, he addressed it using terms that were clear and we both understood. The teachers saw that it had been satisfied and left it alone. Today I probably would have been taken to an ER and the school would have paid the bill, that poor kid that was just enjoying chili and grilled cheese day would be expelled, probably arrested. We didnt have gloves, we had an open lot across from two of the schools, I assume after school theater was a pastime for teachers. They had to be watching us resolve disputes because everytime something would go to far they'd swoop in and drag people off, otherwise problems simply got solved in those lots. Public schools are too dangerous now and too political. I'm really hoping I can find what I'm looking for On Wed, Apr 7, 2021, 12:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: When I was in school in the 60s and 70s, we had boxing gloves. If you got into a fight an old navy boxing teacher would give you both gloves you would would duke it out. I thought it was great fun. But I generally came out on top. Literally. I would borrow the gloves and fight during recess for fun at times. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 11:44 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: online k12 homeschool options Why I'm there is another tangent and another category. When I was in school in the 80's, if Kid A was wailing on Kid B then an adult would step in and probably put Kid A in a headlock until he's under control. Today, they aren't allowed to physically touch the kids, and they're somewhat restricted in what they're even allowed to say to them. So today Kid A gets asked nicely to please stop doing that to Kid B. That's all fine and good unless you're Kid B. My son was Kid B. Kid A's mom was president of the PTA and refused to believe her special offspring could have done anything wrong. School did both jack and shit. So my wife said to hell with NY schools. On 4/7/2021 1:36 PM, James Howard wrote: So you tolerate the vegan’s diet as long as they tolerate your nudism? From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 12:30 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: online k12 homeschool options They do trend weird. In fact, I'd say homeschoolers range from a little weird to effin cray-cray. There are some whose kids have weird health conditions the school can't accommodate. Like an extreme allergy or an unusual disability. These are usually fairly sane. The religious homeschoolers are often trying to protect their children from the perils of the sinful world around them, and those are some of the less crazy ones. However, some of the religious ones are flat-earthers and young earth creationists who don't want their children brainwashed with secular sciences and/or have a persecution complex. The school teaches facts like evolution and the earth being round, so therefore it's persecution. There are also people with weird lifestyles that the school system won't accommodate. These could be vegans, nudists, or almost any other kind of weirdo you can imagine. I'm not judging, I'm just sayin that they are, by definition, weird. They're generally relatively safe and normal. I don't worry about them doing or saying anything too insane, and I get along just fine with the vegans in particular. You just have to make sure to make something they can eat when they come over. There are some who have, shall we say, "less mainstream" notions about how school should work. "Radical un-schooling" for example. If you read about unschooling I think it's a method that really could work well for the right type of curious and self-motivated kid & parent. It also may result in a kid who's 12 and can't friggin read because his "un-schooling" curriculum is video games and TV.....I exaggerate, but only a little. And finally, just to put the fear of God into you, there was one home school family in the co-op who I suspect are child abusers. You see, school is full of mandated reporters, but if you're at home then there's nobody to see the evidence (and I won't elaborate on this). So if you join a co-op or otherwise link up with other homeschool families just be sure to practice your poker face, because you'll hear some weird shit. -Adam On 4/7/2021 1:14 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Home schooled kids trend weird. 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