Agreed with Steve.  Take the tech support files from the 3 devices and
report what you saw!

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On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 3:36 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Should open a ticket with cambium, the engineers would probably like to
> investigate this scenario and identify the specifics.
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 11:09 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> Forcing them both onto the sector, they have now been stable for over a
>> day.  Weird.  Some sort of issue with Mu-MIMO and the smart antenna?  Like
>> it was trying to talk to both SM's at the same time but because they were
>> so close they were interfering with each other?
>>
>> On 4/16/2021 9:10 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>
>> No, I forced them both to the same antenna.  I figured if it was  timing
>> thing, then both on the same antenna should fix that.
>>
>> They've been up for the last hour since I forced them to the sector,
>> reporting same distance and identical Signal levels.
>>
>> On 4/16/2021 9:08 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> Did you force one to each antenna?
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 8:12 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Forcing them to the smart antenna didn't help, just forced them to the
>>> sector to see what happens.
>>>
>>> On April 15, 2021 7:07:15 PM CDT, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you're compounding it with multipath, those tiny timeslices probably
>>>> have more overlap to the same antenna. I dont know the math so I'm probably
>>>> wrong
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 4:48 PM Nate Burke < <n...@blastcomm.com>
>>>> n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I didn't think of that if they're using the 2 separate uplink
>>>>> antennas.  But I would have thought the scheduler would keep that from
>>>>> happening.
>>>>> I just forced them both to the smart antenna.  We'll see what
>>>>> happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/15/2021 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> If distance is fluctuating it could be multipath, eliminating that as
>>>>> much as possible will help.
>>>>> but having them on two different uplink antennas may help ensure the
>>>>> AP isnt "blinded" on the uplink.
>>>>> the AP Rx should be pretty much even, if theyre not and one is
>>>>> fluctuating more than the other it may be the multipath culprit. I
>>>>> dont know if theres shrouds for these like ubnt had, but if you have one 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the old NSM shrouds you could try affixing it with the gap away from the
>>>>> other radio to shield the two somewhat. It wont fit all the way around but
>>>>> could give you an idea of whether you should go to the machine shop. I
>>>>> dont know if RFArmor is still a thing or not
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 4:22 PM Nate Burke < <n...@blastcomm.com>
>>>>> n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, distance is fluctuating.  Right now they're showing equal
>>>>>> distance.  And both re-reged within 30 seconds of each other 10 minutes
>>>>>> ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you mean set the preferred AP?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't have a good way to get vertical separation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/15/2021 4:18 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> can also try locking one to the sector
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 4:17 PM Steve Jones <
>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the SM distance fluctuating? Can you get vertical separation, 18
>>>>>>> inches?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 3:51 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a rooftop that has an existing Force300-25 radio on it for
>>>>>>>> several months.  I just added a new Force300-25 radio on a new
>>>>>>>> mount
>>>>>>>> next to it, so they are separated by a few feet horizontally.  Both
>>>>>>>> radios are now re-associating randomly to the EPMP3000Ap with Beam
>>>>>>>> Steering Antenna every couple hours.  Has anyone else seen this?
>>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>>> are the only 2 SM's on the AP that are dropping.  In the AP
>>>>>>>> wireless
>>>>>>>> table, it also thinks that they are 0.5 miles different in
>>>>>>>> distance.
>>>>>>>> Signal levels are exactly the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've seen the Signal levels do strange things when EPMP SM's are
>>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>>> together, but I haven't seen the radios make each other drop out
>>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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