It depends... reasonable people generally appreciate having some kind of
service, but a lot of people seem to get more upset about having a
partially working connection than no connection at all.
It depends on how badly it's crippled too... you could probably get by with
a backup that was only capable of about half your normal bandwidth without
most people noticing the difference.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:14 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> I used to think that, but anymore, unless they can stream video, the
> internet is down.  Businesses are different, but residential, if they're
> only partially working, they're 'down' according to the customer.
>
> On 7/26/2021 1:07 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> Even a low bandwidth cripple route is better than no alternate route.
> I wonder how easy it would be to set up a traffic shaper that would block
> all streaming when you were on your alternate low BW backup?  Just let
> email and web traffic flow.
>
> *From:* Jan-GAMs
> *Sent:* Monday, July 26, 2021 11:59 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cut fiber
>
>
> It kind of does, doesn't it.  There aren't that many choices in rural
> America, choices have to be existent in order to get chosen.  And they have
> to be affordable and not in the realm of unaffordobtanium.
> On 7/26/21 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Kinda sounds like the residential guy with a $44.95/mo lowest speed plan
> complaining he's losing millions on his eBay auctions.
>
> If the uptime is worth it, you need redundancy.  Fiber has problems.
> Wireless has problems.  Electronics and software have problems.
>
> Josh Luthman
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> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 12:40 PM Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote:
>
>> Must be nice having unlimited access to resources
>> On 7/24/21 9:23 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>
>> Get a backup connection and use BGP. Not rocket science
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 5:38 PM Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote:
>>
>>> 5 minutes before the auction starts for the 4H club, the fiber backhaul
>>> somewhere gets cut.  Several counties got disconnected. Now a whole lot
>>> of kids didn't get to sell.  Can you believe this shit?  Of course
>>> because we're on-site we get the blame.
>>>
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