I understand but why then did the mRNA vax have different efficacies during the trials?
From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT booster shot Both the Moderna and the Pfizer vaccines target the spike protein specifically. When you get "natural immunity", or maybe some of the other vaccines, you wil probably be getting different antibodies, some of which have been defeated (or seriously compromised) by the newer variants. I am of the opinion that one spike protein antibody is almost identical to another spike protein antibody, or close to it. Here is the latest from the Sunday NYT: Moderna’s vaccine appears to be the world’s best defense against Covid. Poor countries are struggling to get it. Moderna is selling nearly all of its Covid vaccine — the only product it sells — to wealthy nations, earning billions in profit. About one million doses have gone to countries that the World Bank classifies as low-income, compared with 8.4 million Pfizer doses and about 25 million single-shot Johnson & Johnson doses. Most middle-income countries that have struck deals with Moderna have not received any doses. Thailand and Colombia are paying a premium. The Biden administration has pressured the company to make its vaccine, which was developed with the support of the U.S. government, more widely available. The development of Covid vaccines means more effective flu vaccines may emerge, thanks to the same technology. In the meantime, public experts say it’s extra important to get a flu shot this year to prevent a “twindemic.” bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 10/10/2021 11:43 AM, Robert wrote: But you didn't get the whole process of the moderna, that's what seems questionable, no second dose, and a different set of antibodies that the body starts to produce from scratch. That's what I question. No supercharge.. On 10/10/21 10:46 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have to believe you would have better immunity. You would create a double set of slightly different antibodies that would both go to work at the same time on a virus. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 8:19 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT booster shot I wonder what would happen if one took both the Moderna and the Phizer vaccines. Bill Prince wrote: I read an article, not sure where, but it may have been the NYT or maybe Science News talking about the need (or maybe not) of a booster. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are very similar in concept and maybe even design, but the dosages and intervals are significantly different. The original Pfizer vaccine was two 20 ml doses three weeks apart. The original Moderna vaccine was two 100 ml doses 4 weeks apart. Some evidence has now shown that the larger doses with the bigger interval seems to have more staying power. The same article speculated that the Moderna vaccine may not need a booster for almost a year, or possibly ever. The UK gambled with longer intervals, and that actually seems to have paid off. We are at the 6-month mark now, but we got the Moderna. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 12:38 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Awesome... wifey and i got Moderna...she wants a booster due to her diabetes, age and dental surgery gig...we hike most weekends and walk almost every day...We did two tough hikes past two weeks and my knee is complaining...i actually started wearing my knee brace today... But other than that, we have been healthy... rarely eat out and haven't gone to hear friends play music...Windy City is off until next year... meanwhile three groups have asked me to join them....my wife said No... besides that i really am enjoying our hikes ... Stay safe out there...wear those level three masks... On Sat, Oct 9, 2021, 12:15 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Wife and I got ours this morning. Had to go to 4 places that were both giving shots and had Pfizer. Finally Wal-Mart had it. I feel invincible (at least I tell myself that) but I still wear a mask when I go out and still avoid crowds. Not much going out yet. Looking over the qualification form, almost anyone could check a box and get a booster. You don’t need to be old. It is easier to honestly qualify if you are over 50 or over 65. And you need to have 6 months elapse since your second vaccination. But they don’t make you prove you qualify, they just want the box checked and the signature. -- AF mailing list [email protected] mailto:[email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] mailto:[email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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