It was a revolver so the hammer would probably have been down so it couldn't have just gone off. If it was cocked then that could be a different story.

Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I would think every actor that has to use a gun should have to get trained to the point they know they are the last chance to catch something like this. And are going to shoulder the blame. Only takes a second to see what you have in the gun. Dummy’s look like real rounds but the primers are dimpled and they rattle of you shake them . You can spin the cylinder of a pistol and see all the primers in one second.
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On Dec 1, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:


thats not what the camera operators lawsuit states.

Hes doind everything to deflect from his culpability.

Doesnt help his case that other big name actors have already called him out for his personal disregard for standards of safety, including the guild rules that firearms are never pointed at live people.

I dont know anything about blanks, I would have no reason to use them, but maybe (highly doubtful) some aspect of a blank cartridge can cause a long term impact to the firing mechanism, like brazing it from more oxygenated burn on the poweder for a hotter temp.

There was a cheap handgun, something just above a hipoint that had a recall like 5 years ago, may have been a model of glock, that would fire occasionally when dropped. This armorer lady sounds like she was more concerned about selfies than verifying product recalls. Maybe her and pinrod baldwin can find an intersex low secuity prison to do their time together.

Theres the whole new story coming out that her armorer father thinks some other movie armorer might have left live rounds on this set that he stole from him. weird coincidence. Ammo isnt all that cheap, but even on a movie set with as B rate a budget as this one had, youd think it would be best to always start with zero ammunition and purchase new live or dummy rounds for the flick each time, destroy the spoilage. Ammo cans can get pretty chaotic over time

On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 9:04 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

    The scene called for pointing the gun at the camera, and he did
    what the scene called for

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    On Dec 1, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Steve Jones
    <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
    wrote:

    
    Amazing how less dead that lady would be if this guy
    wasnt handling a magic gun pointing it at people on a scene that
    had no call to point at people in an industry where you
    dont point firearms at people with a firearm you dont point at
    anything youre not prepared to destroy... but sure, he didnt
    pull the trigger. Totally trust a mope who beats people up over
    parking spots

    On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 7:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF
    <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

        I have a few heirloom antique 22 cal rifles.  Nothing
        against guns but I don’t own a handgun.  I have historically
        had a very short fuse and quick to fight.  I have mellowed
        with age but I still don’t want to give myself that option.

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        On Dec 1, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Jaime Solorza
        <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
        <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        
        My dad was USMC sniper...he loved to hunt and taught my
        brothers and me how to shoot rifles and hand guns...my
        youngest brother had the best aim...he took us
        hunting...thus is back in mid 1960s to 1972...folks
        divorced ..
        None of us own guns....we prefer fishing and crossbows...
        Only one who ever carried a gun was my sister when she
        worked for a three letter guvment(in my best Steve Jones
        voice) agency and my son in combat and afterwards as Air
        Force MP...
        Neither own guns now...
        Stay safe

        On Wed, Dec 1, 2021, 4:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF
        <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

            He is saying he did not pull the trigger.  My first
            instinct was “yeah right”. But I had to remind myself
            that I had a rifle go off all on its own once when I
            was about 13.  It was pointed at the ground.  Stock was
            under my right arm.  I was walking. My hand was no
            where near the trigger.
            I actually did not realize it went off.  I realized
            someone very nearby fired a gun, but I did not feel it
            kick.  It was either a lever action 30-30 or a 32
            special, I used both on a regular basis.
            Everyone else in the hunting party all turned looked at
            me and asked me what I was shooting at.  I initially
            denied I shot at anything but I felt the barrel and it
            was warm.  There was also a crater in the dirt right in
            front of my toe.
            Maybe a button on a sleeve or a rivet on my pants
            caught the trigger or the hammer. When hunting I would
            frequently pull the hammer back half way.  I think that
            was considered having the safety on with those old
            guns.  You could not pull the trigger and fire from
            that position.  If the trigger was all the way forward,
it would fire if the hammer got struck by something. To fire you had to pull the hammer all the way back. Or if you used the lever to put one in the chamber it
            would also fully cock the gun.
            It has always been a mystery to me.  Just glad I didn’t
            kill anyone that day.
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