It was a revolver so the hammer would probably have been down so it
couldn't have just gone off. If it was cocked then that could be a
different story.
Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I would think every actor that has to use a gun should have to get
trained to the point they know they are the last chance to catch
something like this. And are going to shoulder the blame. Only takes
a second to see what you have in the gun.
Dummy’s look like real rounds but the primers are dimpled and they
rattle of you shake them . You can spin the cylinder of a pistol and
see all the primers in one second.
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On Dec 1, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:
thats not what the camera operators lawsuit states.
Hes doind everything to deflect from his culpability.
Doesnt help his case that other big name actors have already called
him out for his personal disregard for standards of safety, including
the guild rules that firearms are never pointed at live people.
I dont know anything about blanks, I would have no reason to use
them, but maybe (highly doubtful) some aspect of a blank cartridge
can cause a long term impact to the firing mechanism, like brazing it
from more oxygenated burn on the poweder for a hotter temp.
There was a cheap handgun, something just above a hipoint that had a
recall like 5 years ago, may have been a model of glock, that would
fire occasionally when dropped. This armorer lady sounds like she was
more concerned about selfies than verifying product recalls. Maybe
her and pinrod baldwin can find an intersex low secuity prison to do
their time together.
Theres the whole new story coming out that her armorer father thinks
some other movie armorer might have left live rounds on this set that
he stole from him. weird coincidence. Ammo isnt all that cheap, but
even on a movie set with as B rate a budget as this one had, youd
think it would be best to always start with zero ammunition and
purchase new live or dummy rounds for the flick each time, destroy
the spoilage. Ammo cans can get pretty chaotic over time
On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 9:04 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
The scene called for pointing the gun at the camera, and he did
what the scene called for
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On Dec 1, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Amazing how less dead that lady would be if this guy
wasnt handling a magic gun pointing it at people on a scene that
had no call to point at people in an industry where you
dont point firearms at people with a firearm you dont point at
anything youre not prepared to destroy... but sure, he didnt
pull the trigger. Totally trust a mope who beats people up over
parking spots
On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 7:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF
<af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
I have a few heirloom antique 22 cal rifles. Nothing
against guns but I don’t own a handgun. I have historically
had a very short fuse and quick to fight. I have mellowed
with age but I still don’t want to give myself that option.
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On Dec 1, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My dad was USMC sniper...he loved to hunt and taught my
brothers and me how to shoot rifles and hand guns...my
youngest brother had the best aim...he took us
hunting...thus is back in mid 1960s to 1972...folks
divorced ..
None of us own guns....we prefer fishing and crossbows...
Only one who ever carried a gun was my sister when she
worked for a three letter guvment(in my best Steve Jones
voice) agency and my son in combat and afterwards as Air
Force MP...
Neither own guns now...
Stay safe
On Wed, Dec 1, 2021, 4:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF
<af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
He is saying he did not pull the trigger. My first
instinct was “yeah right”. But I had to remind myself
that I had a rifle go off all on its own once when I
was about 13. It was pointed at the ground. Stock was
under my right arm. I was walking. My hand was no
where near the trigger.
I actually did not realize it went off. I realized
someone very nearby fired a gun, but I did not feel it
kick. It was either a lever action 30-30 or a 32
special, I used both on a regular basis.
Everyone else in the hunting party all turned looked at
me and asked me what I was shooting at. I initially
denied I shot at anything but I felt the barrel and it
was warm. There was also a crater in the dirt right in
front of my toe.
Maybe a button on a sleeve or a rivet on my pants
caught the trigger or the hammer. When hunting I would
frequently pull the hammer back half way. I think that
was considered having the safety on with those old
guns. You could not pull the trigger and fire from
that position. If the trigger was all the way forward,
it would fire if the hammer got struck by something.
To fire you had to pull the hammer all the way back.
Or if you used the lever to put one in the chamber it
would also fully cock the gun.
It has always been a mystery to me. Just glad I didn’t
kill anyone that day.
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