Start with every single airliner worldwide and probably every single military 
aircraft.  This is a global system, global frequency allocation and brand new 
planes come with radar altimeters.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 12:19 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] C band 5G vs Radar Altimeters

There can't be THAT many old planes in the air that have this automated landing 
system. 

Buy new receivers or install some filters.

5 MHz away? Okay.
10 MHz? Maybe.
200? Bugger off.



They're not making new spectrum, so everyone (even incumbents) needs to move 
with the times.


Just like the 30 MHz T1 microwave links out there. Put something else in the 
air more efficient.




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Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP






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From: "Chuck McCown via AF" <af@af.afmug.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Cc: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@go-mtc.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 1:06:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] C band 5G vs Radar Altimeters

Lots of old planes in the world.  Lots of old front end filters too.  And the 
system chirps the band to get a more sure return so it needs the bandwidth.  It 
was designed to be robust, not to be spectrum efficient.  Probably came out of 
WW2.


Sent from my iPhone


  On Dec 12, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:


   
  If radio altimeters have 200 MHz (which seems excessive), it seems equally 
excessive to be complaining about noise from 200 MHz away.




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  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






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  From: "Tim Hardy" <thardy...@gmail.com>
  To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
  Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 9:50:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] C band 5G vs Radar Altimeters

  Deja Vu all over again. Very similar to the OBE / adjacent channel concerns 
voiced in the 6 GHz unlicensed proceeding. The FCC’s total lack of 
understanding of receiver filtering in even current devices is astounding and 
its fairly clear that money / politics beats physics everyday.



    On Dec 11, 2021, at 3:59 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

    I understand the issue now:
    https://youtu.be/942KXXmMJdY

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