When we were doing some remodeling, I got a roll of this brown paper we
used to cover the floor, and also mask the walls in some situations. It was
darn cheap, and was a super-long roll. Maybe about 3' wide. Would cover the
bottom of a bird cage for years. Sturdier than newspaper too.
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On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 7:33 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Newspaper was preferred because of a single sheet to cover the whole
> thing. Would have to tape a bunch of junk mail together i guess
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 7:38 PM Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote:
>
>> I was thinking of getting a bird, this is serious, what to use to line
>> the cage with?
>> On 2/1/22 15:56, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> I miss my paper too. We were talking about getting the daughter a bird.
>> Was telling herwe just line the cage with newspaper, then thought about how
>> the only time theres a newspaper here is when somebody dies so we can cut
>> out the obit. So now, do my daughter to have a pet, i have to get into
>> murdering people i know.
>> I guess that means tha the decline of print media will lead to increase
>> in central illinois homicides.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2022, 2:20 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Talking heads that make their living off of creating drama and
>>> controversy are all BS. The View, Joe, Rachael... all of them are BS.
>>> Newspapers less so but you gotta know the bias going in.
>>>
>>> In Utah we used to have two really good daily papers. The Deseret News
>>> and the Salt Lake Tribune. Both date way back. One pro LDS church and one
>>> anti LDS church. The Des News does not really exist as a daily and I don’t
>>> think either of them print on paper. I had to read both to get the best
>>> idea of what was going on with any issue. I miss my physical papers. They
>>> sure filled up the garbage can though.
>>>
>>> I mostly ignore national news on TV, radio and podcasts. Used to listen
>>> to NPR all the time. It used to have jazz locally for lotsa hours each
>>> day. They took that off and gave us first Juan Williams, really a good
>>> interviewer, then Diane Rheme. I really disliked her.
>>>
>>> Don’t much listen to any NPR anymore. Just WBGO listen live. Good jazz.
>>>
>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 1, 2022 11:15 AM
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in
>>> Tech
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you ascertain that he was not?
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 2/1/2022 10:13 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>>> How did you ascertain that what he was saying was BS?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com
>>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 1, 2022 11:41:32 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in
>>> Tech
>>>
>>> It's like Joe Rogan now saying that he's going to give equal time to
>>> science versus the BS he's spreading on his podcast. Does that make the BS
>>> any less BS?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 2/1/2022 8:40 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>>>
>>> Coincidence ? or Magical Thinking?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 1, 2022 10:17 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in
>>> Tech
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thats exactly it for the issues that actually exist, thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now i need to know what its called when the issue is imagined after an
>>> event.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Similar to the game i play with my wife where i ask her if the kids feel
>>> warm and 99 percent of the time she "feels" a fever on their forehead
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2022, 9:39 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> In classical Greek sophistry, the term was “Post hoc ergo propter hoc”.
>>> Which means “after, therefore because of”.
>>>
>>> It’s one of the classic logical fallacies.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 01, 2022 1:10 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You guys are a bunch of nerds, somebody has to know the term Im looking
>>> for to describe this phenomena.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When an inert even triggers customers to believe there is an issue that
>>> doesnt exist, or they notice an existing issue and assign it to the event.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some examples:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You put up a notification that site A is undergoing maintenance, so a
>>> customer on Site B that is totally isolated sayas that ever since that
>>> maintenance, there has been a problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We did a mass change of our defalt WPA keys on managed routers. Probably
>>> 1 percent of the customers claimed that "ever since the change" there has
>>> been some issue. Changing they WPA key wont impact performance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just completed a network wide rate plan naming convention change,
>>> every non custom account will have anew name for their rate plan on their
>>> invoice. this had zero service impact, its just clerical, but as the bills
>>> go out, probably 1 percent (probably that same 1 percent) will call in with
>>> an "ever since the change" complaint.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Im not looking to argue with the customer as to whether there is an
>>> issue or not, Im simply looking for the name of the phenomenon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Id like to incorporate this into tier 1 support training so that this
>>> doesnt continually generate nuisance escalations. Some reference material
>>> on it would be the bees knees. Everything has a name, like Petrichor: the
>>> way it smells outside after rain or Phosphenes: the lights you see when you
>>> close your eyes and press your hands to them.
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