You don't have drawings?  Who's the last one to add equipment to the
tower?  Where are their drawings?  If these are rules and an exception was
made for them, can you make it for us?  Keep in mind our wind load
requirements are significantly less than other industries.

On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 10:21 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> Maybe the building department has the drawings but my water department
> contact does not.  I'll inquire more.
>
> Thanks for the tips.
>
>
> On 4/8/2022 9:06 AM, Justin Wilson (Lists) wrote:
>
> +1 to Josh.
>
> Anytime a tower company asks me for a structural engineering I ask them
> for a copy of the most recent one.  I tell them I don’t want to waste my
> time on fees if it won’t pass as is.  I they can’t provide me one I throw
> it back to them.  Why do I want to do structural on something that has
> never had it done?  Usually this can lead to a waiving of the structural
> costs or getting the company to reimburse the cost of the structural.
>
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
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> On Apr 8, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> If they have to "keep the same rules for everyone" then by definition the
> most recent cell company would have required those drawings.  Ask for the
> most recent copy.
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 5:40 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> I just heard back from one of the engineering companies recommended by a
>> tower owner, he ballparked $1000-$1500 for the drawings, and $1500 for
>> the engineering, but said it depends on how much of the drawings are
>> already done, or if he has to go out and survey the tower and make one.
>>
>> On 4/7/2022 4:33 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>> > I have used a couple different companies.  Most of the work cost
>> > between $700 and $1800
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 1:37 PM
>> > To: Animal Farm
>> > Subject: [AFMUG] Water tower structural engineering
>> >
>> > Many of you guys are on Municipal water tanks,  did you have to have
>> > drawings/engineering done for your equipment?  We have equipment on some
>> > city water tanks through an acquisition, and the city is requiring us to
>> > do full drawing/engineering/permits for equipment upgrades even though
>> > we're only talking about changing some 2' dishes out (UBNT 5ghz to
>> > licensed), and changing some EPMP1000 sectors to EPMP3000.  The Water
>> > department admits that our stuff is small and won't matter, but since
>> > there are multiple cell sites on each water tank, they have to keep the
>> > same rules for everyone, and we don't have enough luck to just 'change
>> > it and see if they notice'  They'll notice.
>> >
>> > What type of company do I need to be looking for do to
>> > drawings/engineering?  I found a structural engineering firm, but they
>> > only take existing drawings/plans and work from them so I need someone
>> > to do drawings.  Ballpark pricing for something like that?
>> >
>>
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