Seems like it would be much simpler to just refer to everyone the same way.  If 
you’re talking about someone who isn’t around you can just say “that idiot” 
when referring to him/her/it/he/she and “those idiots” instead of they/them.  
Much cleaner that way.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 4:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

 

I heard an admittedly right wing commenter describe it this way..

 

You rarely use a gendered pronoun when talking to someone.    You use their 
name or "you".    You only use the gendered pronouns when they aren't around. 

 

So people asking you to use their preferred pronoun are asking you to change 
the way you refer to them when they aren't even around.

 

Now, there are some people who I've met that use the "they" pronoun and I will 
say that neither of the gendered pronouns really apply to them and "they" is 
much more appropriate.   

 

It's the people who are obviously a specific gender and dress and behave like 
that gender that demand you refer to them using the opposite pronouns that 
drive me nuts.   

 

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, 12:11 PM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com 
<mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com> > wrote:

I don't really care what gender you want to be, or even no gender but I'm never 
saying "they is"  I will just refer to them by their name.  Sam is going to the 
store.  

 

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 12:56 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com 
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Phew. Glad I'm exempted.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 10/6/2022 10:53 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

BTW, boomers get a pass on all this complaining....

 

From: Chuck McCown via AF 

Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 11:51 AM

To: Darin Steffl ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Cc: Chuck McCown 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

 

Just a way to classify the woke vs the unwoke.  

Forcing a weird and unnatural change in language.  

They/them/theirs are all plural.   Third person plural.  Adds confusion.  

Some languages do not genderize pronouns.  Everyone is it or its.  

But here you would offend someone by calling them it.  

 

From: Darin Steffl 

Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 11:23 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Cc: Chuck McCown 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

 

Why does this bother you? It's just an email signature. 

 

I don't list my pronouns anywhere, and have no desire to, but I'm certainly not 
offended or angered when I see someone list them in their email.

 

Live and let live

 

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 10:16 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

Got my first email where the sender listed their pronouns.
It was from the clerk of the Utah court of appeals.
She/Her/Hers

I hope this does not become a thing.  

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