Good thing I got all my money in FTX crypto...
From: Bill Prince
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We will see. Banks are having a hard time selling the $13 billion debt they
took on. Last quote I heard was 60 cents on the dollar.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 11/12/2022 10:25 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Yeahbut, that is WaPo... kinda like a conservative quoting Fox.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 11:21 AM
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I think fetid hellpit is the wrong metaphor.
More like:
Dumpster fire
On the back of a locomotive
Going off the end of a broken train tressle
crashing into a canyon filled with gasoline.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/11/twitter-fake-verified-accounts/
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 11/7/2022 7:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Not all blue check marks are the same. Essentially, the traditional blue
check mark target audience gets a new indicator to indicate that they went
through additional verification.
Engagement algorithms are certainly problems.
"Ergo, middle of the road statements (which are probably more common and/or
less inflammatory) are more boring, hence generate fewer clicks."
I agree, but I can generate a lot of engagement by posting neutral facts on
currently controversial situations.
The diesel shortage... I pulled the EIA data that Bloomberg used in their
graph, but included all of the history that the EIA had (at least where I was
looking). As it turns out, the current levels aren't that catastrophic.
However, by posting just the link to the spreadsheet and chart and that I
followed the same methodology Bloomberg used, I'm simultaneously a right wing
and a left wing extremist. I'm a MAGA Biden voter.
BTW, that data is here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z3_tBVSrplTAAgjWEQ_LVUITI-BMhIgA4CgOiTwAHus/edit?usp=sharing
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From: "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com
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Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 8:59:30 AM
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I did not see anything that manages who can pay their $8. $8 a month gets
you a blue check, and off you go.
What Forrest said is the basis of all of it. The "algorithm" is really only
concerned about clicks. More clicks = more amplification (because more ads).
Numerous studies have shown that the more outrageous (more whacko) the
statement, the more clicks it generates. Ergo, middle of the road statements
(which are probably more common and/or less inflammatory) are more boring,
hence generate fewer clicks. So what we end up with is a hellscape of extreme
ideas drowning out the more mainstream ideas. Driving everyone to the outer
edges only makes us more divided. If divided is what you want, here (more of)
it comes.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 11/7/2022 5:12 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I really don't think that's grounded in fact.
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From: "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2022 6:53:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT youtube
From where I sit, it looks like it is going to become a fetid hell pit.
Anyone who might have tried to manage disinformation has been shown the
door. It will get much, much worse before it had any chance of getting better.
You can buy legitimacy for $8 a month.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 11/6/2022 4:26 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I like that it seem they are attempting to control phony accounts. But
I really don’t use it so I don’t care about it much. Cofefe.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 6, 2022, at 5:10 PM, Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com
wrote:
He fired everyone on the algorithm teams...
On 11/6/22 3:22 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
One more thing.. if there is one thing musk's twitter acquisition
accomplishes, I hope that it is that the algorithm is adjusted such that it is
far harder to end up in your own personal echo chamber.
On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 2:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
wrote:
So, new computer, finally got icons displaying (My son has it set
up so he can take over my computer from everywhere and fix whatever this old
dad cannot figure out, love it).
Youtube viewed with new chrome on a new computer has quickly
figured out that I like to watch Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk gotcha videos and
is recommending nothing else other than right wing gotcha stuff. It is
amusing, but I am wondering what does the other side look like? Is there a
whole alternate youtube universe of leftist gotcha videos that make fun of Ben
Shapiro and push all the left hot button issues. lgbtq trans, crt, BLM, defund
the police, etc stuff 100% of the time etc.
Is youtube just right leaning?
Or is there no cogent left leaning content on par with a Ben
Shapiro type of thing?
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