I put the largest SD card the camera will support in them.  Some of my cheaper 
ones only support 32GB but I have a couple with 256GB cards in them.  When I’ve 
given footage to the cops (once to State Patrol and another time to county 
sheriff) I’ve just pulled the SD card, transferred the files they wanted and 
put them on a flash drive.  My daughter was somewhat embarrassed by the audio 
since she hadn’t realized it records that also (she was singing along with the 
radio).

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 12:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much

 

On mine, the SD card just fills up then starts overwriting the oldest files.  
So they're on the SD card until they're overwritten.  I guess if you get in an 
accident, the camera is still powered up, and the haul the car off to the 
junkyard, you could lose it.  But you'd have several hours to retrieve the SD 
Card before it's overwritten.  As soon as you apply power, the camera powers up 
and starts recording.  So if you wire it into your AUX power, it's 100% 
automatic.  Just pull the SD card if you need to view something otherwise it 
just sits there and records and overwrites.   If you hit the 'save' button on 
the camera, it changes that recording segments file name so that it won't be 
automatically overwritten.  

On 2/8/2023 12:14 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

So if you get in a crash and cannot push the button do you lose the video or?

 

 

 

From: James Howard 

Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 11:08 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much

 

The ones I have all have SD cards in them.  Some go up to 256G and can hold a 
lot.  They all have settings for length of recording, mine have 1, 3 and 5 
minute options.  It starts a new file and then you can tell it to overwrite the 
oldest when they fill up.  They usually also have buttons you can hit to mark 
the current file as locked or something like that so it won’t overwrite if 
something happens that you want to save.  With 128G I think mine holds over 
10hours at 1080p.  I have one that I can connect to with my cell phone and 
watch the videos through that.  I’ve never done it though.   Depending on 
what you want to do, you can get them with cell service also that work as 
location tracking too.  I haven’t looked at what’s out there for that in 
the last couple years though.

 

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 5:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>
Cc: Chuck McCown  <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> <ch...@go-mtc.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much

 

So do dash cams record continually whenever your car is turned on?

Do they write over memory?

 

From: James Howard 

Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 3:35 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much

 

Record all your calls with them.  My daughter made a left turn (she thought she 
had a green arrow but wasn’t positive and told the cop and insurance guy 
that) in front of a car that might have run a red light if she was correct.  It 
was a four lane street and the oncoming car by all accounts including the 
driver was in the left lane.  He hit the rear wheel of my daughter’s Jeep in 
the crosswalk of the street she had turned into (he came from the left lane, 
actually came across a lane to hit her in the left lane of the street she had 
turned into).  They pulled into the gas station at the corner to get out of 
traffic (his suggestion).  I came because my daughter didn’t have proof of 
insurance in the Jeep so I ran over to show that on my phone.  The other guy 
comes out of his car and knocks on my daughter’s window since it had started 
to rain and says “do you happen to have any cigarettes, I don’t want to run 
to gas station in the rain”.  17 year old daughter was driving.  15 year old 
sitting in passenger seat (was reading a book when it happened so said she 
didn’t see anything) was who the guy asked for cigs.   Anyway, back to the 
story, he tells the cop while I’m sitting there that he was going straight at 
the intersection (nothing about turning) and was pretty sure he had a green 
light.  Cop says since they left the intersection he couldn’t write anything 
for sure.  You could see the pile of pieces in the crosswalk that came off my 
daughter’s Jeep but he said there was no proof that it happened there.  There 
were skid marks but not definitive.  Cop felt bad but I understand he 
couldn’t state what he thought probably happened.  So, anyway, I check with 
gas station and they don’t have any cameras pointed at the intersection so no 
footage.

 

So to the reason for recording all calls from State Farm.  I have State Farm 
but because it was an older Jeep we don’t have collision coverage.  The other 
driver also had State Farm but had an almost new CRV and had full coverage.  
Jeep was still sort of driveable (I ended up selling it for $500) but the whole 
front end of CRV was hanging off.  State Farm calls me and asks to talk to my 
daughter.  I sit next to her while she’s talking to them.  She tells them 
that she’s pretty sure she had a green arrow but she’s not positive.  State 
Farm talks to the other guy.  State Farm calls me back and says “your 
daughter is 85% at fault so you get nothing”.   I said wait a minute…..  
how is 85% her fault if the other guy came across 2 lanes and told the cop on 
sight he was going straight, not turning?  The State Farm guy says “your 
daughter said she turned in front of him and he had a green light”.  I said 
that is completely false.  I was sitting here when she said she was pretty sure 
she had a green arrow.  State Farm says “the other driver stated that he had 
a green light and your daughter turned in front of him”.  So I said, “my 15 
year old was reading a book in the Jeep and said so rather than lying like this 
other driver.  If she had said that she saw the whole thing and my daughter had 
a green arrow would you have said that was 2 stories against one?”.  They 
didn’t say for sure but it sounded like that would have affected it.  So 
including getting no money for the Jeep, my daughter also got that accident on 
her record and State Farm raised our rates.  I wish I could find a different 
company but they’ve actually been decent other than that time.

 

But….. again record the calls to them because they will lie about what you 
tell them.  Also, anybody that’s still suffering through my account here…. 
Put dash cams in your cars.  I put them in every vehicle we have after that.  
Thankfully we haven’t been in any accidents since but I’ve actually turned 
dash cam footage over to the cops twice now for accidents that happened in 
front of us.

 

Good luck with State Farm!!

 

James

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 10:49 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much

 

Good video.

 

I am now faced with asking State Farm to make me whole with respect to the 
crash.  

We have had bad experience with State Farm in the past.

 

Any tips?

 

 

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Monday, February 6, 2023 1:18 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much

 

Watch the video.

 

On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 2:52 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com 
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

two crumple zones hitting each other vs one crumple zone hitting a wall, 
makes off the cuff sense to me...  two old, non crumple zone, cars 
hitting each other would seem like what it would take to get a 120 mph 
impact.   Those crumple zones make a monster difference...



On 2/6/23 10:52, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Not correct, Bill :(
> 
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 1:07 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>  
> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     There would be the difference between colliding with an "almost"
>     immovable object (wall) versus colliding with a vehicle that has
>     some semblance of a crush zone. I don't know how much that
>     difference would be.
> 
> 
>     bp
>     <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
>     On 2/6/2023 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>     As I recall, mythbusters did the whole two cars head on vs one car
>>     and an immovable wall.  Seemed like there was no difference.
>>     *From:* Brian Webster
>>     *Sent:* Monday, February 6, 2023 9:25 AM
>>     *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much
>>
>>     Yes I would rather have a collision with another car at the
>>     difference in speed than the combined speed of the two…. ____
>>
>>     ____
>>
>>     Brian____
>>
>>     ____
>>
>>     *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>      <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On 
>> Behalf Of
>>     *dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:*dmmoff...@gmail.com>  
>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>     *Sent:* Monday, February 6, 2023 9:54 AM
>>     *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much____
>>
>>     ____
>>
>>     Huh….never heard them called Jersey Barriers before.____
>>
>>     Apparently the slope on the bottom is to make your tires ride up
>>     so you redirect back into your own lane (though possibly flipped
>>     over) whereas a flat wall might make you flip into the oncoming
>>     lane. ____
>>
>>     Fun stuff.____
>>
>>     ____
>>
>>     *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> >
>>     <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Robert
>>     *Sent:* Friday, February 03, 2023 10:42 PM
>>     *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much____
>>
>>     ____
>>
>>     Same, california name for them.   Always remembered that name from
>>     the movie "Volcano"____
>>
>>     On 2/3/23 5:10 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:____
>>
>>         Looks the same as Jersey barriers?____
>>
>>         Sent from my iPhone____
>>
>>         ____
>>
>>             On Feb 3, 2023, at 5:29 PM, Robert
>>             mailto:i...@avantwireless.com wrote:____
>>
>>              surplus K rail, if you think they might make it over,
>>             double it up...
>>
>>
>>             
>> https://www.eiffeltrading.com/marketplace/traffic-barrier/barrier-wall/k-rail-barrier-wall
>>  
>> <https://www.eiffeltrading.com/marketplace/traffic-barrier/barrier-wall/k-rail-barrier-wall>____
>>
>>             On 2/3/23 9:19 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:____
>>
>>                 Yeah, sonotube filled with a rebar cage.  Make a
>>                 picket fence of them.  Cheaper than a cutover to a new
>>                 building.  I have 576 strands feeding this shelter. 
>>                 Or maybe I beam hammered in with a pile driver. ____
>>
>>                 ____
>>
>>                 Best Regards,
>>                 Chuck McCown
>>
>>                 McCown Technology Corporation
>>                 8401 N Commerce Dr
>>                 Lake Point, Utah 84074
>>                 801-250-9503 Office
>>                 435-830-4306 Cell
>>                 www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com>  
>> <http://www.mccowntech.com>
>>                 www.microtrench.pro <http://www.microtrench.pro>  
>> <http://www.microtrench.pro>
>>                 www.terabitnetworks.com <http://www.terabitnetworks.com> 
>>                 <http://www.terabitnetworks.com>____
>>
>>                 ____
>>
>>                 *From:*TJ Trout ____
>>
>>                 *Sent:*Friday, February 3, 2023 10:08 AM____
>>
>>                 *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____
>>
>>                 *Cc:*Chuck McCown ____
>>
>>                 *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much____
>>
>>                 ____
>>
>>                 I'm sure you could design some bollards that wouldn't
>>                 allow a tractor trailer through your fence 😁____
>>
>>                 ____
>>
>>                 On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 8:34 AM Chuck McCown via AF
>>                 <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:____
>>
>>                     I think we are going to install a larger shelter,
>>                     farther away from the I-80 ROW fence.  Second
>>                     crash right there.  First to come through the
>>                     fence.  Car landed on our back up generator after
>>                     wiping out our fiber splicing trailer, dump
>>                     trailer and really nice powered reel trailer. ____
>>
>>                     ____
>>
>>                     Hope the kid had insurance.  No seat belt.  Head
>>                     wound but apparently no broken bones. ____
>>
>>                     ____
>>
>>                     *From:*Mark Radabaugh ____
>>
>>                     *Sent:*Friday, February 3, 2023 7:27 AM____
>>
>>                     *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____
>>
>>                     *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much____
>>
>>                     ____
>>
>>                     I don’t see the brown stain marking where you were
>>                     standing before the car arrived. ____
>>
>>                     ____
>>
>>                     Mark____
>>
>>                     ____
>>
>>                     Mark Radabaugh____
>>
>>                     Amplex____
>>
>>                     22690 Pemberville Rd____
>>
>>                     Luckey, OH 43443____
>>
>>                     419-837-5015 x 1021____
>>
>>                     419-261-5996 cell____
>>
>>                     mark@amplex.net____ <mailto:mark@amplex.net____> 
>>
>>                     ____
>>
>>                     ____
>>
>>                     ____
>>
>>                         On Feb 3, 2023, at 7:55 AM, Chuck McCown via
>>                         AF <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > 
>> wrote:____
>>
>>                         ____
>>
>>                         ____
>>
>>                         ____
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>                                 ____
>>
>>                                 Sent from my iPhone____
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