Maybe bouses as a percentage of base base pay? That way the guys who have
been there longer or are better workers and have received raises for time
or performance get a little more. It also incentivizes people to be better
performers if they get a little more pay raise and realize that equates to
a better bonus if and when they happen.


On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 4:07 PM Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.com>
wrote:

> Just feel at this point.
>
> We pay our installers (internet roof top, fttp etc) around $24 an hour.
> Labor it's too hard, merit based incremental pay raises about 3-4 percent a
> year after they have been at this level.
> Managers around $60k to $90k a year with full benefits, again 3 percent
> raises on the year, very conservative bonuses maybe hundreds to about $1k.
>
> The employees seem to just like the good pay and moderate acknowledgements
> of work done well.
> Probably a bit overpaid, but it's a small team and we don't want to have
> to re-hire or re-train staff.
>
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF <
> af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2024 11:16 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] compensation for employees
>
> My latest pivot a couple of years ago to microtrenching blades, adding
> grout machines, then microtrenching saw attachments and now to a
> specialized type of vacuum excavator has gone extremely well.  Almost no
> software involved.  Just a little in a motion control PCB in the grout
> machine to control the hydrostatic transmission.  This is by far my most
> profitable season I have ever had in 50 years of running some kind of
> hustle.  And those years of the stinger and other related antennas and
> hardware were not bad at all.  I am a bit more confident that these new
> “durable products” have more legs than the antennas that were radio
> specific.
>
> But having been through wax and wane of business, economy and product
> cycles for many decades, I am always reticent to ratchet up pay.  I do give
> bonuses.  I will always live in fear of not meeting payroll.  Only happened
> once about 30 years ago, but that is a bad deal.  And actually nobody was
> unpaid but I had to layoff everyone.  But I digress.
>
> What would y’all suggest as a way to reward employees when things are
> going well?  I give COLA plus modest merit increases every 6 months.  I
> could give substantial merit increases but that plays into my phobia of
> things getting tight again.  Maybe that is totally unfounded.  I know when
> things started going well for Henry Ford he doubled pay and things got even
> better for him.
>
> I would like to do bonuses based on my bottom line income (I think), but
> how to distribute that evenly?  Should everyone get the same amount?  And
> how to relate that the size of the bonus is tied directly to how well the
> company is doing?  Or should I just give really nice raises this go
> around?  Or both?  I guess if things slow down we can always trim staff or
> let attrition do it for us.  I think you all can understand the reluctance
> to give raises as it is a one way street.  You really cannot cut pay.
>
> I want employees to prosper and do better personally.  I wonder if my
> fears are justified.  I know some of you have worked for large companies at
> certain points in your life, how did they accomplish this.  I know some of
> you have really prospered with your WISP/ISP, curious how you approached
> the whole sharing the wealth thing.
>
>
> Chuck McCown
> McCown Technology Corporation
> 8401 N Commerce Dr
> Lake Point, Utah 84074
> 801-250-9503
> 435-830-4306 cell
> www.mccowntech.com
> www.microtrench-blades.com
> www.terabitnetworks.com
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