I grow weary of the “find a bigger idiot to sell it to” straw argument; what if 
we run out of idiots with no brains but piles of money, a naturally occurring 
phenomem it turns out, especially over time. The cool kids call that a 
“bubble”, which tend to contain very little in the end except moderatly hot air 
and a few people who get poor trying to cash in their “shares of air”. 

But they’ve have great Internet you could argue!

> On Oct 4, 2024, at 12:14 PM, Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
> 
> I looked at some CAF grants and made some reasonable assumptions to calculate 
> $ per tower. Big number. It wasn't clear that actual customer revenue was 
> necessary.
> 
> Get grant. Equip towers. Cash out to private equity.
> 
> Yes, eventually you'd need revenue, but down the road enough it would be 
> someone else's problem.
> 
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" 
> Sent: 10/4/2024 2:02:15 PM
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2
> 
> Varies by customer and their situation.  If you can get $100/month and an 
> install fee it’s pretty short.  Less than that it ales a lot longer.  Grants 
> certainly make it easier.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jeff 
> 
> Jeff Broadwick
> CTIconnect
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2024, at 2:44?PM, Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?What is the average time before operators make a profit on a sub? I know, 
>> variables, but mainly, before or after I die of old age or run fiber?
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2024, at 5:40?AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists <jeffl...@att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can get you any pricing you need.
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that the G2 will be dual band, 3 and 6GHz.  It will be 
>>> able to use 4x 40MHz channels and still provide all the interference 
>>> mitigation of the G1 with 2x 40MHz channels.
>>> 
>>> I’m sure there is more, but that is what I know now.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Jeff 
>>> 
>>> Jeff Broadwick
>>> CTIconnect
>>> 312-205-2519 Office
>>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>>> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 3, 2024, at 6:43?PM, Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?I wish Tarana’s price was the actual price, instead of sometimes a ton, 
>>>> sometimes a half a ton, sometimes don’t know. That way, I could calculate 
>>>> how many decades it would be until each customer would be profitable 
>>>> (outside of subsidized builds).
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 3, 2024, at 3:04?PM, Jason McKemie 
>>>>> <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The G1 is expensive enough, are people actually deploying these on a 
>>>>> large scale?  The AP is pricey, but not necessarily a deal-breaker - 
>>>>> those subscriber units though...
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 1:21?PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com 
>>>>> <mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> Osborne Effect refers to one of the most infamous marketing fails of all 
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Has Tarana done this by announcing the G2 while all they have shipping 
>>>>>> is the G1?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or is the G2 so much more expensive that it’s just for window shopping 
>>>>>> anyway?  I figure if these are being bought with BEAD money, frugality 
>>>>>> may be out the window.
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