>Costquest database just identifies serviceable locations AFAIK Right. Then you go to the state(s) BEAD FP data and intersect.
>OK, I may know about those errors, but why would I (or anyone else) spend my time helping Costquest correct them? As a BIAS provider, it is your obligation to update the fabric with challenges. >It’s not a freely available resource, so why should it be crowdsourced? Strange how broadband gets more and more expensive along with tax liability climbing. On Mon, Mar 30, 2026 at 10:50 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > The Costquest database just identifies serviceable locations AFAIK, I > don’t think it tells you if there are ISPs there or grants like > CAF/RDOF/BEAD. You would have to get that data from the FCC or your state. > > > > Also the Costquest information initially was terrible, and has been > refined to merely mediocre. They are still missing locations, yet they > include locations that are structures with no need for broadband, etc. For > a commercial grain elevator near us, they list every grain bin and silo as > a BSL. OK, I may know about those errors, but why would I (or anyone else) > spend my time helping Costquest correct them? It’s not a freely available > resource, so why should it be crowdsourced? > > > > Some of the states have put a lot of work into refining the data they get > from FCC including challenges saying unserved locations are actually > served. I don’t know if you could get access to this data, but it is > probably more accurate. Plus you could probably get the list of locations > they intend to fund through BEAD, and whether it will be fiber, coax, FWA > or LEO. If you’re looking for areas to build into, I’d focus on those > areas where the state intends to give BEAD money to Starlink or Amazon > LEO. That tells you the state thinks the area is unservered or > underserved, but that BEAD will not be funding a strong competitor. (Or at > least one that doesn’t already exist.) The other low hanging fruit IMHO is > areas in town that aren’t eligible for BEAD because there’s a cable > company but that cable company is way overpriced. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Sunday, March 29, 2026 10:26 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GIS file of grant project areas > > > > It would be for assessing competition. We have pretty decent intelligence > on that already, but recently while looking at a potential new area it came > out that there was a BEAD project which wasn't on our map. I was asked if > I could dig up GIS data on that (for free). > > > > I found lots of things I could pay for. This Costquest outfit doesn't > even seem competitive to be honest. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Hohhof < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 29, 2026 5:06 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GIS file of grant project areas > > > > Depending on how you want to use it, there may be a problem. > > > > My personal view, and I am definitely not a lawyer, is if you want to use > it internally for general network planning, what they don’t know won’t hurt > them. If you are going to use it for a direct marketing campaign, or an > online qualification tool, or something like that, probably don’t do that. > > > > It’s interesting that almost all big ISPs have online qualification tools, > and they all look very similar, especially the process of identifying your > street address. They all have to be getting the database and software from > somebody. > > > > https://www.costquest.com/broadband-serviceable-location-fabric/fabric-faq/ > > > > Q: If I am an FCC licensee, can I use my FCC-licensed materials for > purposes outside of the BDC process? > > A: No. The FCC Licensed Materials are only for FCC BDC purposes. They > can’t be used for purposes outside of the license agreement. If you are > going to use FCC Licensed Materials for purposes other than BDC purposes, > this is a violation of the FCC License Agreement. > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Sunday, March 29, 2026 3:36 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GIS file of grant project areas > > > > I wouldn't know. I'm in the "New Markets" department, and that would be > in the realm of another department which handles compliance. I'll have to > ask them. Information siloing is sometimes unavoidable, and I think this > is a case in point: Not knowing that existed, I never knew to ask about it. > I guess since I'm looking at "new" markets, the information they got for > free is probably not what I need, but they may have bought something as > well. I definitely will ask what we have. > > > > <soapbox>Information siloing is annoying, but it's 1% of it. I'll tell you > that anyone who espouses the brutal efficiency of private enterprise has > never worked for a corporation. You guys still in small businesses are the > ones who have the brutal efficiency, and you might need a fainting couch if > you saw some of the wasted time and money in corporations.</soapbox> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Hohhof < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 29, 2026 12:57 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GIS file of grant project areas > > > > Don’t you get it free if you file BDC? At least for your service area. I > think first time we had to sign something with Costquest, some kind of NDA > or something. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Sunday, March 29, 2026 11:52 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GIS file of grant project areas > > > > Ah I see. I can't wait to find out what that costs. > ------------------------------ > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Luthman < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2026 10:02 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GIS file of grant project areas > > > > You need the fabric database from Costquest. You know, the one your taxes > paid for you. You have to buy it again. > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 4:03 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > > I found a site where I could download a complete list of BEAD locations, > but they removed the actual coordinates and addresses--I presume for > privacy. Meanwhile, a different site has all of the CAF funded address > points, with the addresses and coordinates intact. Make up your minds > Federal Guys. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Luthman < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2026 12:34 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GIS file of grant project areas > > > > Yep! > > RDOF is CBG > > BEAD is location fabric, individual houses > > Reconnect is a PFSA, a polygon(s) defining the project area > > To maximize government waste. Do the task three different ways to avoid > being able to share resources. Oh and that FCC fabric is tax payer funded > meanwhile ISPs are expected to be the ones to correct the data set. > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 11:47 AM Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote: > > The earlier ones were polygons, blocks and such, but the Bead is locations > so you'd be looking at mixed data as well. > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 9:18 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > And then you’d need the list of defaults. Apparently RDOF had a bunch of > those. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2026 8:53 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GIS file of grant project areas > > > > RDOF, BEAD, and Reconnect are there different government agencies. Of > course they are not all in one spot. You can download those three from > three spots. > > If you want to start including states, it'll be more places to look. > Local stuff...jesus... > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 9:36 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is there any consolidated map of federal broadband grant funded areas? A > shape file or KMZ would be ideal. > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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