So this is a new circuit and they are disclosing the fees upfront? And I assume it involves a term contract rather than month-to-month?
Seems like the fact they call it a fee is irrelevant, add it to the circuit cost and that’s what they are proposing to charge. I guess my question would be, by calling it a fee, does that mean they can arbitrarily raise it at any time despite you having a contract price? Seems vaguely like the terms when leasing office space, it can be a gross lease, net lease, triple net, etc. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2026 6:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wholesale Regulatory Fees So this is just certain providers tacking on whatever fees they feel like? I didn't pay anything when I had a transport on the state's network. I suppose I'm just wondering if there is a legit regulatory basis for this sort of thing or if it is arbitrarily defined by the provider. On Wed, Apr 1, 2026, 4:11 PM TJ Trout <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Try buying a transport circuit directly from at&t, they charge 60% in fees! On Wed, Apr 1, 2026, 1:08 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Fees are by definition something to add to the bottom line. They are not taxes. Fees and taxes are two different things. On Wed, Apr 1, 2026 at 3:06 PM Jason McKemie <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I just had my upstream start charging "regulatory fees" for some new circuits. The transport is via AT&T. I've had multiple wholesale and ptp circuits over the years and have never paid this sort of fee. They claim they previously absorbed this as a cost of doing business, but the new owners are re-structuring how this is handled. The fees amount to almost 14% of the total transport. Is this an actual thing, or is it just a fake tax they're adding to pad their bottom line? -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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