You are able to get some good scuba diving in when having to visit to the bank.
> On Sep 16, 2026, at 18:15, Chuck <[email protected]> wrote: > > What is the benefit in using the Cayman Islands? > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 16, 2026, at 5:42 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> From an SEC 10K, I see that Cambium Networks is a holding company >> incorporated in the Cayman Islands, with 3 subsidiaries: >> Cambium UK >> Cambium US >> Cambium India >> >> What assets, debts, employees and product lines are in each subsidiary? I >> don’t know. >> Does this mean that only the UK subsidiary is in “administration”? I don’t >> know. >> Do the 3 pieces stand on their own, or are they intertwined? Almost >> certainly intertwined, I would think. >> >> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Hannum via AF >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2026 8:32 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >> Cc: David Hannum <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RIP Cambium Networks? >> >> Just sits there churning in every browser . . . >> <image001.png> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 9:14 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Need to sign up in order to post, but you should be able to view. >> >> You can't even get community.cambiumnetworks.com >> <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/> to load? >> >> >> On September 16, 2026 8:04:07 AM CDT, David Hannum via AF <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> I can't get the forum to load . . . tried all browsers. >> https://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t/cambium-in-administration/108820 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 10:43 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> There are some tidbits of information on the Cambium community: >> https://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t/cambium-in-administration/108820 >> >> Oh, and I don’t think Cambium gets enough credit for Cambium Community >> (their user forums). Easily the best I have seen from any vendor. And the >> support people and product managers read the posts and jump in regularly. >> They even email an abbreviated digest of posts on the forums that you might >> have missed. >> >> Also tools like cnMaestro, LinkPlanner, cnHeat. And actual documentation >> and release notes, which many vendors skimp on or ignore completely. >> >> From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On >> Behalf Of Zach Underwood >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2026 9:06 PM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RIP Cambium Networks? >> >> The solution I know about is the work with astound to make Wi-Fi roaming >> with a single SSID work across a third party gpon system. >> The way it would work it would establish tunnels back to the home AP and >> your traffic would get tunneled from whichever access point you connected >> to. >> >> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) >> My website <http://zachunderwood.me/> >> advance-networking.com <http://advance-networking.com/> >> >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2026, 10:01 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Isn't Astound the company that declined several big BEAD awards? Due to the >> project areas being redrawn I think. So maybe that cost Cambium some sales. >> >> I am somewhat ignorant when it comes to FTTH, but I remember seeing some >> marketing material for Cambium's products and being favorably impressed. >> >> >> On September 15, 2026 8:41:48 PM CDT, Zach Underwood <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Probably astound/Google fiber well at least for the wifi line. I know >> cambium did a big engineering push for astound earlier this year and that >> astound had placed a large order. >> >> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) >> My website <http://zachunderwood.me/> >> advance-networking.com <http://advance-networking.com/> >> >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2026, 9:16 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> *nods* Mimosa and Zhone were both bought by huge (if not their biggest) >> customers. >> >> Who's Cambium's biggest customer? >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hammett >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2026 2:48:03 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RIP Cambium Networks? >> >> >> >> >> >> Perhaps wise precautions, especially if your exposure is primarily >> enterprise/consumer WiFi and FTTH as opposed to FWA. But “Cambium as a whole >> is on life support and only has weeks left” may be overblown. >> >> >> >> Hey, Mimosa is still around. New owner, but still around. And I wouldn’t put >> Mimosa in the same class with Cambium. >> >> >> >> And news that a company these days cut staff by 50% isn’t that shocking. I >> just hope they didn’t let AI decide who to fire, DOGE-style. Available info >> suggests a more strategic restructuring. That’s the part that hasn’t yet >> been fully revealed. >> >> >> >> I think Cambium felt they had to become an everything company like Ubiquiti, >> but couldn’t pull it off. Look at Tarana on the other hand, which is pretty >> much a one trick pony. In the long run, which is the best business strategy? >> Hard to tell. Especially with VC and PE money that sometimes funds stupid >> stuff. >> >> >> >> >> From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On >> Behalf Of Zach Underwood >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2026 1:14 PM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RIP Cambium Networks? >> >> >> >> We are treating Cambium as a whole is on life support and only has weeks >> left. >> >> * We have told vendors where we have pending orders of cambium wifi APs >> not to ship us any. >> * We are standing up on site cnmaestro server in one of our datacenters >> * We are working with what staff is left to get permanent licenses for >> our over 8k APs. >> * We are already having talks with Extreme and Arista about their wifi >> APs and controllers. >> * We got our first xgpon project using cambium that should go live >> before the end of the year, we are now looking for other vendors. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 1:32 PM Ken Hohhof < [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Go to their reception but put some money in the tip jar? >> >> >> >> But gallows humor aside, it’s probably difficult walking the thin line >> between “business as usual” and “being frugal”. A robust trade show presence >> might be important both for customers and potential buyers assuming they’re >> trying to find a buyer for part or all of the business. It doesn’t help >> preserve the asset value for creditors if you stop selling your products. >> >> >> >> If I’m understanding the situation correctly, the UK subsidiary is in >> “administration”, but Cambium Networks the parent is a US corporation and >> not in bankruptcy proceedings at least at this time. It seems clear that top >> management waited too long to take some extreme cost cutting measures, >> either some creditors forced their hand, or they literally couldn’t keep the >> lights on and make payroll, like a pilot who ejects just as the plane hits >> the ground. The cashflow situation couldn’t have been a mystery, so I doubt >> they were counting on booking some big sale or a bunch of BEAD driven >> revenue. One could speculate they have been trying to sell off some parts or >> the business or some product lines or maybe the whole company, and they just >> ran out of time. Maybe they thought they had a buyer and it fell through. >> Although it’s common for buyers to make the seller do the bloodletting >> before the sale. >> >> >> >> Anyway, I am not familiar with the UK version of bankruptcy. I’ve had some >> customers in Chapter 11 here in the US. They were actually good risks >> because all expenses had to be approved by an administrator or the bank or >> something so the checks were like cashiers checks, they never bounced, all >> expenses were pre approved and the cash was already there. Money owed from >> before they declared bankruptcy was another story. >> >> >> >> So in the US we have Chapter 11 which is usually “Debtor in Possession” >> where management continues running the business but needs outside approval >> for any major expenses. Or the company can be run by an outside >> administrator or trustee representing the creditors. Then there is Chapter 7 >> which is liquidation. I get the impression that administration in this case >> is either like Chapter 11 with outsiders running the company, or Chapter 7, >> not sure which. They make it sound like a store that has closed and they’re >> selling off the fixtures to make partial payments to creditors. >> >> >> >> I think Cambium had or has R&D in Ashburton. I’m not sure what they did >> there, and if it’s part of the UK subsidiary. Presumably that goes back to >> the Orthogon acquisition, but I don’t know what else they might have >> designed there. I know when I buy PMP450 or ePMP products, the box says >> Cambium Networks, Ashburton, UK. For all I know they were just assigning the >> revenue to their UK subsidiary to dodge US income taxes. Not sure that >> matters if you’re reporting a loss. >> >> >> >> I will say I’ve done my part recently to help Cambium survive, I’ve bought >> several license or unlock keys, which I assume are high margin if not pure >> profit items. Kind of like contributing to the Cambium GoFundMe. >> Unfortunately my company is very small so I can’t make much of a dent in >> their payroll or rent or utility bills. >> >> >> >> Probably the WISPAPALOOZA costs have already been paid. They still have to >> pay travel and lodging to staff the booth and other events. Maybe they can >> fly Spirit Airlines? I’m guessing they will show up. Whether to sell >> products or to sell the whole company, they have to put a team on the field >> and score some points. It sounds like some product lines might be getting >> the axe. In which case they would be furiously reworking their trade show >> strategy. Promoting a product you’re discontinuing would not be good. >> >> >> >> If I were going (I’ve never gone to the Vegas shows and I’m not going to >> start now at age 76), I would be grilling them about things like EVO and >> 450v/ePMP convergence, which is a story I never bought in the first place. >> They handed the Cambium QOE product back to Bequant, so they seem open to >> revising some of their plans, maybe not trying to be everything to >> everybody. Maybe the best thing show attendees can do to help Cambium is to >> give their product managers and top mgmt our unvarnished view of what they >> need to do and not do. Steve Jobs was famous for selling people things they >> didn’t yet know they needed. I don’t think anybody at Cambium right now is a >> Steve Jobs. We’ve all seen things at stores that any random person on the >> street could look at and say that will never sell, that’s a stupid idea. And >> we’ve all seen radios that any field tech could say is poorly designed and a >> pain in the butt to install. Or radios that no residential customer would >> let us install on their house. Cambium can’t afford any mistakes like that. >> Although I have to remember they have government customers who are not like >> WISPs. >> >> >> >> Brutally honest feedback from customers might be the best help they could >> get right now. Just my opinion, worth every penny you paid for it. >> >> >> >> >> From: AF < [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On >> Behalf Of Cameron Crum >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2026 10:10 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RIP Cambium Networks? >> >> >> >> Sadly, I think you are correct. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 7:01 AM David Hannum via AF < [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I guess that means I should make alternative dinner plans for Monday night >> at WISPAPALOOZA as Cambium had a reception planned . . . . We'll see . . . >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2026 at 5:45 PM Josh Luthman < [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Half of the company was fired - no severance pay. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2026 at 1:16 AM Ken Hohhof < [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> >> >> This seems to be news out of the UK and from one person who has been let go. >> Some of the statements would seem to apply globally, but maybe we should >> wait for the light of day and see what comes out. >> >> >> >> This may be the source for some of the speculation: >> >> https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2026/09/wireless-uk-broadband-company-cambium-networks-falls-into-administration.html >> >> It sounds like administration is Brit speak for what we would call Chapter >> 11? But also they’re talking about the UK subsidiary. >> >> >> >> Years ago I worked at a company that did an IPO and I learned from all the >> nonsense on the Yahoo message boards not to assume everyone knew what they >> were talking about. Like big news flash, the board meeting was moved to >> Florida. Well, it was because one board member has an ear infection and >> couldn’t fly. Then some amateur sleuth discovered the board meeting was >> extended by a day. Turns out since it was moved to Florida, some on the >> board wanted a day to play golf. Then the CEO sold some stock. Reason was he >> was building a fancy new house. >> >> >> >> Maybe the speculation is all true. Nothing I would do in response can’t wait >> a few days. Unless you’re placing bets on prediction markets. >> >> >> >> >> From: AF < [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On >> Behalf Of Colin Stanners >> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2026 10:30 PM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] RIP Cambium Networks? >> >> >> >> It seems to be RIP for Cambium Networks, born in 2011 (when the >> Canopy/Orthogon products were spun off from Motorola, who had started >> selling those around 2002) to 2026. As well as its acquisitions Orthogon / >> PipingHot Networks and Xirrus. >> >> >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/carljefferys_cambium-networks-appears-to-have-collapsed-share-7505055774495100929-X72q/ >> >> >> >> https://blog.j2sw.com/technology/an-open-letter-about-the-implosion-of-cambium-networks/ >> >> >> >> When I started in the WISP industry around 20 years ago, I found their >> products' good engineering, reliability and scalability a wonderful asset to >> help build a WISP. Since that time the products have increased greatly in >> bandwidth capability and the company's products and its hard-working >> employees have been a big contributor of my work life. >> >> >> >> Unless something magical comes in to save them, this will be then end and a >> big loss for the industry and a big reconsideration for our networks. >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) >> >> My website >> >> advance-networking.com <http://advance-networking.com/> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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