They have the (IP) traffic records and then subpoena the ISP.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 4:59 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> If it’s child porn you’re worried about, just anecdotally, when you hear
> about someone being arrested for child porn, what do they say is the
> offense?  I always hear either distributing or possessing.  In rare cases,
> producing.  So typically they get a search warrant and find it on your
> computer.  Or the find who is distributing it on “the dark web”.
>
>
>
> I suspect it’s like pirate music and TV.  If you get a DMCA notice because
> of Bit Torrent, it’s for acting as a server, because that’s how P2P
> protocols work.  It’s almost never for downloading.
>
>
>
> Otherwise everybody with a vSeeBox would be in jail.  And in that case,
> even the people running the servers aren’t in jail.  Luckily I don’t think
> they have child porn or snuff videos or animal cruelty videos etc.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2026 3:40 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ABNB
>
>
>
> Can't you block in the router settings what web content can be accessed?
>
> On 10/26/26 06:28, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> I'm not sure it doesn't matter which computer.  If they downloaded illegal
> content like child porn, then that content is on your device.  I think the
> law has a mens rea aspect where you needed to have intent and knowledge,
> and the burden of proof is on the prosecution, but I would not trust the
> court in regard to anything very technical like computer forensics.  If it
> came down to two experts giving opposite testimony, then you're at the
> mercy of what a judge or jury *thinks* they understand from that
> testimony.  Better to never be in that position.
>
>
>
> I've been watching court videos on YouTube a lot, and I saw one where the
> prosecution's expert witness turned out to have lied about his education,
> and the defense counsel tore him up on cross examination.  The thing is,
> that jackass testified multiple times in court before someone's attorney
> figured out he was a fraud.  Better to never be in that position.
>
>
>
> -Adam
>
>
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> on behalf
> of Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2026 2:25 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ABNB
>
>
>
> Maybe I’m wrong, but I wouldn’t leave a nice computer there.  And if they
> do something bad like kiddie porn or terrorist threats, it’s going to be
> traced by IP address and it doesn’t matter if it’s your computer or theirs.
>
>
>
> People don’t tend to use computers any more, and if they’re using one in
> Puerto Vallarta it’s probably just to check their work stuff while on
> vacation and they will probably have their own laptop and other devices.  I
> doubt even the fanciest hotels provide computers, or if they do, it would
> be something like a laptop you check out from the concierge, not just
> sitting there like the Mr. Coffee and the minibar.  But I don’t have
> personal experience with top tier hotels.
>
>
>
> What I’d think Airbnb renters would care about is good TV and good WiFi.
> If you want a nice desktop PC there for your own use, I’d lock it away
> while you’re gone.  Not locked in an IT sense, but in a physical sense.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On Behalf
> Of *[email protected]
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2026 1:01 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT ABNB
>
>
>
> In the process of buying a fairly nice condo in Puerto Villarta.  Will Air
> BNB it most of the year.
>
> Want to have a nice computer there for work and want to leave it there
> with a guest user account.
>
> I wonder if we need to lock it down to browser only?  Don't want to go to
> jail for something a guest did.
>
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