What platform for HA? isn't VMware like 15k for HA?

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
<af@afmug.com> wrote:

>  You can certainly run things on a single machine. I would at least have
> some level of RAID. Then do backups regularly, or automated.
>
> But I need the VMs to be up, so multiple machines and HA, and decently
> fault tolerant storage. So instead of running and maintaining an expensive
> SAN, it would be much easier/cheaper to use distributed storage on the
> machine's local drives.
>
>
> On 10/22/2014 9:59 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote:
>
> Or maybe I run everything on a VPS?
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 7:58 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>
>> Fail tolerance in terms or being able to recover from a disaster and not
>> loose everything
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 7:57 PM, TJ Trout via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Could this be done with reliability and fault tolerance using vsphere
>>> with only 1 machine? and a NAS for backups? Worst case if a failure occurs
>>> I can scrouge up some old desktop or something and install vsphere? Do i
>>> really need a main and backup server, vcenter server, etc?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:57 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via
>>> Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I wanted VSA, which was reasonable for a small cluster. Then they
>>>> replaced it with vSAN and the licensing cost went to 5x more per node.
>>>> There's no way I'm giving VMware any money at all after this, I will find
>>>> another way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/22/2014 7:03 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Did you look at VMWare's partner program?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> *From: *"George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> <af@afmug.com>
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:53:04 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Plat hardware? Any simple solutions?
>>>>
>>>> I've been going down this road for months trying to convince the boss
>>>> that we need to do something different. Most of the problem is, the
>>>> WISP
>>>> software packages don't fit our overall business. So I'm still
>>>> shopping,
>>>> and there's nothing that all of us in the management group agree on,
>>>> but
>>>> we're gonna do something.. soon.. because.
>>>>
>>>> On the hardware front, I was pricing out VMware licensing for the
>>>> configuration I want, and there was just no way that was gonna happen.
>>>> The hardware came out to only about 1/4 of the overall cost.. that
>>>> tells
>>>> you how much the VMware licensing would be. But there's plenty of
>>>> open-source virtualization projects out there like Proxmox, *stack
>>>> this,
>>>> *cloud that, none of which do what I want. So I've settled on getting a
>>>> demo setup of oVirt running on a couple CentOS boxes and see where it
>>>> takes me.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/21/2014 10:02 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote:
>>>> > So I'm embarrassed to say that after over 5 years I still don't have
>>>> a
>>>> > automated billing system and with the recent data breaches the labor
>>>> > to keep updating customers cards is finally pushing me to do
>>>> > something, I've been leaning towards Plat for a long time because of
>>>> > the cost and popularity and the fact that my mikrotik core router can
>>>> > easily integrate.... The problem is I'm a server N00B and have no
>>>> clue
>>>> > where to start on that, I was thinking that someone might have a
>>>> > simple but reliable/redundant solution. I was looking at a single
>>>> > vsphere host running windows for plat and linux for radius & cpanel
>>>> > for the web module but I need to hire a consultant to get that done
>>>> > right, then the reliability concerns/backup etc come in and by the
>>>> > time the consultant was done planning my system we went from 1 box to
>>>> > 4, 1 main server with all of the above services + 1 dns, a second
>>>> > "backup" box that would have all of the guests from box #1 backed up
>>>> > for a almost instant fail over should box #1 die, then a 3rd box for
>>>> > vCenter and lastly a NAS to backup everything to, at another site on
>>>> > the network in case of fire/theft,etc. This sounds like a totally
>>>> > awesome setup but will end up costing me 10k by the time I get some
>>>> > decent hardware, software licenses, hypervisor consulting and Plat
>>>> > setup consulting... I wish they had a simple hosted solution... Arg.
>>>> >
>>>> > Anyone have some other idea on how I can get up and running without
>>>> > spending a fortune but still have some type of disaster recovery
>>>> > should the box melt down?
>>>> >
>>>> > I really hate to spend the high monthly $ on something like Visp,
>>>> > swift fox, etc
>>>> >
>>>> > Any guidance is greatly appreciated
>>>> >
>>>> > TJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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