The other issue is that this gear was originally intended for the licensed
market. This was the case with wimax, and it didn't handle interference
gracefully at all. As I haven't used LTE, I'm not sure if it is any better,
but I imagine not much. When I first started using the 320, I thought
something was wrong with the gear - it turns out it is just insanely
sensitive to interference.

On Wednesday, November 5, 2014, Rory Conaway via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

> The general path is either a chipset based CPE based on something like a
> handset chipset (not the best idea since it locks down a lot of things and
> the PHY layer really sucks for high-interference environments), FPGA or
> other hardware based SDR client and then move to a chipset to get the
> second generation cost down once the PHY layer is written the way you want
> it.  I thought White Space vendors were going to pursue that path for
> example.  LTE is a lot harder since there is a lot more work that has to be
> done on the PHY layer.   LTE is the best option but proprietary LTE with
> various techniques, some of which are no-brainers, some of which are going
> to require serious out-the-box ideas, would give LTE the best chance when
> it moves from rural to urban.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of *Ken
> Hohhof via Af
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 05, 2014 6:44 AM
> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE vs 450 3.65GHZ
>
>
>
> Exactly, can they do proprietary CPE?
>
>
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie via Af
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:18 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE vs 450 3.65GHZ
>
>
>
> The latency is in the standard, so they would have to deviate from it.
> Being SDR, I suppose they theoretically could, I just haven't seen it
> happen yet.  Presumably the CPE are built around a standards based chipset,
> so it would probably mean an increase in price for those as well.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Rory Conaway via Af <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>
> Why do you say the latency would be significantly higher?  That’s
> manufacturer dependent since they aren’t locked to the full cellular PHY.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of *Jason
> McKemie via Af
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:55 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE vs 450 3.65GHZ
>
>
>
> The 450 is going to smoke the Telrad from a latency standpoint.  This is a
> big downside to this gear IMO.  If someone would optimize LTE for use in a
> fixed environment you could possibly get better latency, but I'm not seeing
> that happening.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Matt via Af <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>
> Is anyone looking at both these options?  Pros and cons of one vs
> other?  Throughput, Sync, Interference, spectrum efficiency, cost etc?
>
> What I really wander is can you bond two non adjacent 10MHZ channels
> with Telrad to make a 20MHZ channel?  I know you cannot with 450 and
> it might become very useful down the road.  Right now with 450 and a
> perfect connection on a 20MHZ channel we can do around 80Mbps
> downstream per sector.  With a 10MHZ channel and not so perfect
> connections that is really getting cut back.
>
> Also, right now we can do ABAB quite easily with 450 gear.  With LTE
> can we do AAAA where spectrum is scarce?
>
>
>
>
>

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