Hi All
When we have a large house and using PMP100 in nat mode we tend to put
in a switch and then just cable routers to the switch giving each
router a different static IP on the WAN and then DHCP on the lan
normally with a different SSID and different channel but I have seen
other articles where the set up is as cascading routers - what would
you all recommend, should we change the way we are doing it ?
Kind regards
Kay
------ Original Message ------
From: "Jaime Solorza via Af" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 06-Nov-14 03:35:59
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
Yep. I saw it as well. Common in South America
Jaime Solorza
On Nov 5, 2014 7:16 PM, "Caleb Knauer via Af" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
<sarcastic comment on how that would require an "air" device to
have a working NMS/controller>
On Wednesday, November 5, 2014, Bill Prince via Af <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
If it is made by UBNT, then it would be the AirMeter.
bp
On 11/5/2014 1:43 PM, Caleb Knauer via Af wrote:
Hmmm, Chuck M is showing a lot of interest in smart
meters. I'm
calling it right now: UniMeter. Cloud-based 900Mhz
meshed smart
meters. I'll license you the use of that name for a
nominal fee.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Chuck Macenski via Af
<af@afmug.com> wrote:
In fact...the smart grid can help eliminate rolling
brownouts/blackouts by
carefully managing the power delivered to customers on
the end of the lines
by controlling the delivered voltage. Basically, these
meters give power
companies the ability to measure the voltage delivered
to meet the minimum
requirements at the end of each feed... Substation
transformers can then be
set to deliver lower voltage (= lower power usage)
thus avoiding
brownouts...of course, load control (turning off your
A/C) doesn't hurt
either.
Pre-smart grid, the main way the power company knew
about lines going down
(storms, trees, etc) was when they got a phone call.
These meters will tell
them where they have issues so they can route around
much much much faster;
other parts of the smart grid can allow power to be
rerouted from a control
panel rather than a power company truck and a guy with
an insulated stick
throwing a switch in the rain.
It is a fascinating topic...
Chuck
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:48 AM, That One Guy via Af
<af@afmug.com> wrote:
The smartgrid does have the benefit off allowing
essential services to
stay up in the event of rolling black/brownouts
I watched a PBS show about the power situation
over in India or one of
those places, its crazy, people steal power left
and right just tying onto
the wires. The transformers are always catching
fire and people dump water
on them. As much as I hate US power companies, I
cant imagine living over
there. Linemen get beat up alot
You could tell the show was geared at it being a
humanitarian issue, these
poor people losing their power... how will they
survive, but the majority of
the background images were of people powering
consumer electronics... not a
justifiable theft IMHO... I did not know TV was a
basic human right
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Chuck Macenski
via Af <af@afmug.com>
wrote:
Smart meters certainly can shut you off
remotely. That is a huge safety
benefit to the power companies - it turns out
that turning the power off to
a customer that has not paid their bill is not
always a pleasant experience.
Chuck
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Ken Hohhof
via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
From ComEd smartmeter FAQ:
"Smart meters for residential customers
will have remote switching
capabilities that can be used when a
customer closes an account, then
reconnects when the customer starts a new
account."
"One of the benefits of this remote
switching capability is that ComEd
can provide electrical service to
customers more quickly, after the customer
has contacted ComEd to initiate service.
ComEd can also expedite the
transfer of electrical service when a
customer moves from one location to
another within the ComEd service territory."
I see a post on the Mike Holt electrician
forum about whether calling
the electric company and having them
remotely shut off the power makes it
safe to work on, as opposed to pulling the
meter. (hell no)
-----Original Message----- From: Bill
Prince via Af
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 11:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
Well, maybe some of them. I don't think
the ones around here have that
capability. Wouldn't they have to have
some large contactors and a
relay? I think that alone occupies a lot
more space than the
smartmeters occupy.
For now I think they are mostly big
brother watching.
bp
On 11/5/2014 8:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
What do you think a smartmeter is?
I compare it to cable. With analog
cable, they had to send a guy in a
truck to shut off your service, but
with digital cable a computer can do it
any time. I assume smartmeters have a
remote shutoff capability.
-----Original Message----- From: Caleb
Knauer via Af
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014
10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
One day the circuit breakers will all
be connected and automated and
we'll all be doooooooooommmmmdddd!
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Chuck
McCown via Af <af@afmug.com>
wrote:
circuit breaker...
From: Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014
5:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for
large houses
Have you unplugged your fridge
lately? You have to roll it out. That
involves taking off the grill at
the bottom and figuring out what kind
of
wrench you need to crank up the
leveling screws. Then your wife makes
you
pick up the dead mice and pet
turtles and get out the vacuum and
sweep
up
all the dog hair and dried up
vegetables that are back there.
Then you
climb back there and unplug it,
count one Mississippi two Mississippi,
plug
it back in, climb back out, roll
the fridge back, re-level it, and put
the
grill back on.
From: Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014
4:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for
large houses
Unplug it/plug it back in is
cheaper than putting in an on/off
switch
(or
re-init switch).
bp
On 11/4/2014 1:46 PM, Adam Moffett
via Af wrote:
I'd be happy to share in that job.
My big beef with our brave new
world is that you have to reboot
everything.
Microwave display is screwed
up....unplug it and plug it back in.
Washing machine digital display is
not responding.....unplug it and
plug it
back in.
DVD Player frozen.....unplug it
and plug it back in.
Dodge Intrepid won't shift
gears......turn it off and turn it
back on.
These are all true stories.
The internet of things will be a
network of crap that doesn't work
unless
you reboot it regularly. When
they are up, the "things" will all be
participating in a botnet.
finally someone took over Doug's
job of letting us all know the sky is
falling!?!?
hip hip hooray...long live Ken the
prognosticator!
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:14 PM,
Bill Prince via Af <af@afmug.com>
wrote:
The apocalypse is coming!!!!!
bp
On 11/4/2014 11:58 AM, Ken
Hohhof via Af wrote:
Soon, when your Internet goes
out, you won’t even be able to
open
your
garage door or flush your
toilet, because it will all be
in the
cloud.
And as ISPs, we’ll be getting
angry calls like “Is the tower
down? I
can’t flush my toilet.”
You think I’m joking?
Remember the thread about LED
bulbs
interfering
with garage door openers? One
of the suggested fixes is a garage
door
opener app on your
smartphone. I assume that
only works if your
smarthouse
has working Internet. Our
hives will cease to operate if
you cut the
connection to the collective.
I’m imagining that something
goes wrong with the cloud
controller,
and now
I can’t even use WiFi within
my house, like printing to my
wireless
printer
or using Chromecast to my TV.
Yes, I know, Unifi should
continue to
operate
without the controller once
set up, but do some features stop
working? Like
handoff between APs?
From: Josh Baird via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 04,
2014 1:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for
large houses
You can host them all on a
single controller in your
datacenter.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 4, 2014, at 2:24 PM, TJ
Trout via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
Can't stand unifi, have them
came up with a way to do it
without a
controller? What do you do if
the customer doesn't have a
windows
machine?
Install a unifi "server" ?
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:20
AM, Sean Heskett via Af
<af@afmug.com>
wrote:
UBNT UniFi...one SSID
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at
12:19 PM, TJ Trout via Af
<af@afmug.com>
wrote:
What are you guys
doing to cover large
homes with good wifi
coverage?
Any options besides
multiple routers with
multiple ssid's? Does
rukus or
someone make something
with true roaming?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You
must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by
you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason.
By all means, do not use a
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
