You don't need to route the content over that provider.  You just need IP 
addresses from them.  We have a block of IP addresses from AT&T that we've had 
forever.  Any customers on those addresses can get ESPN3.  We advertise those 
addresses over our other providers also and ESPN3 worked there the last time I 
checked it as long as I had an AT&T address.

I haven't tried it in about 2 years but I was VERY unimpressed when I tried 
ESPN3 the last time.  The UW Badgers were in a game that was only broadcast on 
ESPN3 so I gave myself one of the AT&T addresses at home and watched the game.  
The quality of the picture was horrible.  I don't know if this has changed but 
ESPN3 wasn't available on Roku at the time so I was watching it through a PC 
connected via HDMI to a 47" tv.  The connection was limited to 11Mb at the time 
because of the wireless link from the PC to the router in the house.  ESPN3 
would run their thing checking the connection speed and play at virtually 
unwatchable resolution.  It was streaming about 2Mb for this lousy picture.  
The most interesting thing about it was that EVERY commercial would peg the 
connection at 11Mb and actually be decent video quality.

Might have changed since then.  My take away from it was that if we "gave" this 
to customers we would be asking for them to complain.  If they call ESPN they 
are going to tell them that "it's your ISP's fault" that the quality sucks.  
Why even deal with it?  We've had maybe 10 requests for it over the years and 
it's only when there's some game that a local team is involved in that's not 
broadcast anywhere else.


James Howard
LiteWire Internet Services, Inc.



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ESPN3

Maybe worth getting an upstream connection from one of those companies and 
routing all requests for ESPN3 over that connection?


-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: "Andy Trimmell via Af" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 9:34:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ESPN3
Most providers are dealt the ESPN3 option by their upstream provider. If you 
buy your upstream from ATT then your customers can log into ESPN3 and it will 
play for them. ATT pays some $500k a year or something of that nature for that 
option.

Drop in the hat for them but for a small WISP that isn't really a bargain.

Give away Google Chromecasts with your service or something.

If people really want to watch Women's basketball that bad then let them 
switch. You didn't want them anyways.


Andy Trimmell
System Engineer
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
Mooresville, IN 46158
317-831-3000 ext 211
www.pdsconnect.me<http://www.pdsconnect.me>




From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield via Af
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 10:26 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ESPN3

It's hard not to contribute to that business model when the market I'm in has 
such a high demand for that.

My market has a very high percentage of cord cutters. Less than 10% of my 
subscribers pay for subscription TV. Top that off with every other ISP in my 
area offering ESPN3 for free and regardless of whether or not the customers 
will use it it does count against me when trying to market my service. People 
seem to buy into this whole free stuff nonsense, even if they don't really care 
for it.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Dec 4, 2014, at 3:44 AM, Jason McKemie via Af 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Don't contribute to that business model.

On Wednesday, December 3, 2014, Brett A Mansfield via Af 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I've seen a lot of ISPs and WISPs offering ESPN3 for free now. Nobody can seem 
to or is willing to tell me how they get that set up. I'd really like to offer 
that to my customers. Anyone able and willing to tell me how to do that?

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

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