It isn’t. I fondly recall the first pirated blu-ray discs (before the 
encryption keys were leaked) were copied by script kiddies who had the playback 
computer pause and print-screen the video frame-by-frame.

Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless<http://www.velociter.net/>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.

I've always thought that all this hype of digital encryption and copy 
protection was a little lacking.  Ultimately it's still an analog medium (you 
viewing the picture) so it could always be 'copied' at that level.  Interpret 
the signal passed to the actual LCD Panel, "Pixel 1342x975 displaying color 
E0FFFF at timestamp 58:44:13.221"  Maybe I'm naive, but it doesn't seem like it 
should be that hard.....

On 12/9/2014 10:18 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote:
I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from RAM, they 
could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
Because then people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone would figure 
out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet for free.

It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK.

Travis
On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour.  Why not stick in a 32GB 
memory and be done?  That would be almost 3 hours of buffer.



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On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming services 
can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their licensing deals, but if 
they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality), they would have much 
fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc.

Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage space. At 
current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full retail... so places 
like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for less than $2. Seems like it 
would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U device that could 
handle 60 seconds of video.

Travis
On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
That’s pretty cool.

You can do 4k direct from Youtube.

Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps.

But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for a while, then 
burst back to 90Mbps.

I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it works on the built 
in TV’s.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.

Lovely

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.

http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/

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