We can always trust Ken to go to the dark side.
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On 12/10/2014 1:17 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Interesting the different approaches to water and Internet usage. The
government actually mandates 1.6 gallon low-flush toilets. That’s why
your pipes are big enough, you probably have LFT’s.
Now imagine if every year you needed bigger toilets (I don’t like to
think about why). So you would upgrade to 720p toilets, then 1080p
toilets, and now 4K toilets, with 8K on the horizon. And imagine that
the government thought it was un-American to have a low flush toilet,
when people in Copenhagen and Singapore and Seoul have giant turd
flushing machines. And they wanted to subsidize building bigger
pipes, and make it illegal to charge for water by the gallon, all to
promote gigantic toilets that will support the economy and the
education of our children. Not sure how to extend the metaphor to net
neutrality or paid prioritization, I guess no matter what you were
flushing, it would have to flush equally fast, even during Superbowl
halftime.
Don’t get me going on the government banning incandescent lightbulbs.
*From:* Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:49 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all ourbandwidth. Amazon
streaming4Know.
No. I have big enough pipes where it doesn't matter. Turn on all of
the sinks and flush all of the toilets. No noticeable impact. ;-)
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Paul Conlin via Af" <af@afmug.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:05:18 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth.
Amazon streaming4Know.
Don’t you hate when someone flushes the toilet when you are in the shower?
PC
Blaze Broadband
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering via Af
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:01 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
streaming4Know.
Ohh we see that now as well. Customer with a 6 meg package calls in,
"Yea the net is slow I'm not getting my bandwidth" I go look at they
have a constant traffic stream of 5.8 meg day in and day out for
months. I ask, do you have young kids at home? "yup, but all they are
doing is watching netflix cartoons, and my wife just watch's stuff on
her ipad shouldn't use that much bandwidth." What will it take to
teach customers that its not 6 meg PER DEVICE.. lol
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
I’m not so worried about 4K as I am that this will be the year we get
hit with the transition from one Netflix stream to everybody in the
house streaming video at the same time and people don’t understand why
they used to be able to stream video and now they can’t. I’m already
seeing it.
I love the people who swear they don’t stream video at all, just
Youtube and Facetime and on-demand on the satellite TV and some video
on the Xbox and the new smart TV and a couple Rokus and some Facebook
videos on the iPad, but no streaming going on here.
*From:*That One Guy via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:*Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:30 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
streaming4Know.
This is going to make for an ugly christmas season.
If we had customer service who was firm it wouldnt be an issue "we
dont offer that speed currently"
but instead, the customers on 900 will be the ones who get the tv, and
the subscription and call in, and CS will keep saying, well isnt there
anything we can do for this guy in the middle of the forrest with the
300 foot cable run? and Ill have to go home and punch one of my
children, probably the boy, Im kind of afraid of the girl.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
A quick Google search comes up with Audials and Playlater. It
does not appear to be rocket science.
*From:*Jason McKemie via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:*Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:18 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
streaming 4Know.
I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from
RAM, they could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
Because then people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone
would figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on
the Internet for free.
It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK.
Travis
On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour. Why
not stick in a 32GB memory and be done? That would be almost 3
hours of buffer.
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bp
<part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com>
On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
It's really too bad that the devices that support all
these streaming services can't have a larger buffer. I'm
sure it's part of their licensing deals, but if they could
buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality), they would
have much fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc.
Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB
of storage space. At current RAM prices, you can buy a
256MB module for $15 full retail... so places like Samsung
can probably buy them in quantity for less than $2. Seems
like it would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a
TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U device that could handle 60 seconds of video.
Travis
On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
That’s pretty cool.
You can do 4k direct from Youtube.
Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around
20-30Mbps.
But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit
around for a while, then burst back to 90Mbps.
I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations
before it works on the built in TV’s.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Jerry Richardson via Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our
bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.
Lovely
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Ryan Ghering via Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth.
Amazon streaming 4K now.
http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/
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Network Operations - Plains.Net
Office: 970-848-0475 <tel:970-848-0475> - Cell:
970-630-1879 <tel:970-630-1879>
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the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if
you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
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