It seems that af5 has not sold as well as forecasted? Lots of “sales” going around
Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 10:43 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. I know, but Keefe mentioned AF5, so I was responding to that. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ________________________________ From: "Gino Villarini via Af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:41:24 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. Im talking af24… Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 10:39 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. I want a bigger AF5. :-\ ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ________________________________ From: "Keefe John via Af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:36:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. Maybe it could be an integrated solution with only one 'dish' vs the dogbone design. I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate a smaller AF5--even if it had less throughput/distance. Keefe On 12/11/2014 8:29 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: via license? *ducking* It could be lower end hardware, though I don't know how the costs of design and manufacture change. Lower throughput may allow for smaller, cheaper processors. Smaller processors use less power, so smaller power supply? I'm no engineer, so I can't tell you how much this would or would not change the price. Something that only does 10 MHz wide? I don't know their cost to manufacture, so I don't know how low they can go with the existing hardware and still make money. On the license front, I think people don't like the Cambium license system because the base unit is too slow and there are too many units. I think Gino's got something with a $1k 200 meg unit. Would be great for (business) customer installs. Maybe just one license to go from Lite to Full? Two things to keep track of, not several. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ________________________________ From: "Gino Villarini via Af" <af@afmug.com><mailto:af@afmug.com> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:20:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. I asked this and got a negative response… UBNT should work o AF24 2 with 1 Gig capacity and a AF24Lite for 200-500 Mbps capacity for $1k link Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 9:27 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. Could they increase the QAM on the current AF24 to match that of the AF5 and at least do 1 gigabit FDX on the current shipping hardware? Not sure how increasing QAM levels work in FPGA land. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ________________________________ From: "Colin Stanners via Af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:19:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. I'm sure they'll do a 24ghz AF 2/Duo/Super/Ultra with 1024QAM. In the 100mhz channels both ways that'll allow around 1280mbit FD - so a 2.5gbit backhaul... I'm assuming 3.65 will come as well. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: I'd guess there's going to be... a least 3 AirFiber products released in the next 12-18 months. If not sooner. Now... what would those be? Hrmmmmmmmmm..... josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com> On 12/10/2014 08:07 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: I don’t know what you are talking about. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:05 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. I'm sure that AirFiber team (which they seem to keep expanding) is silently sitting in their own little corner in Chicago doing nothing. :P josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com> On 12/10/2014 07:48 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: I think the ePMP is going to run into the same problem all the 802.11ac vendors are seeing with the new OOBE rules. The 450 is able to provide a better performance within the new environment so there will still be a differentiator. The only question if it’s worth the difference. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:45 PM To: Josh Luthman via Af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. .AC is an upgrade to .N. Cambium has the choice to use it or not. Others do. epmp competes with 450 right now but helps to keep customers and applications where 450 does not meet the price point. Von: Josh Luthman via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 04:00 An: Josh Luthman via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> An .AC ePMP would be incredible - but the issue is whether Cambium would be fearful of it competing too much with the 450. What does a company do when it has 2 products that are too good, and the cheaper one starts to outshine the more expensive one in the most often used benchmark? (mbps - even .AC ePMP is unlikely to beat 450 in scalability / latency / etc). On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: > The answer is to release an epmp1000-ac. > > > *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 01:39 > *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> > > I hope Cambium is listing on this point. > > Get rid of speed license and make it as unlimited radios at 10 meg price > point. > > They are about to have more competition from lot of other vendors too. > > Tushar > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via Af > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:10 PM > To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. > > > Yes no maybe. > > I think this is good news actually, as it is sure to light the competitive > fire under Cambium to get to feature parity and get rid of speed licenses. > >
