My Duramax\Allison will as well, though was intended to help slow heavy loads.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Luthman via Af" <af@afmug.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:56:23 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff My car (automatic) will downshift to slow me down. I can also downshift to do this and do it pretty often on exit ramps. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: Paddles are pretty awful compared to a stick. Sure it’s fast - but you have no control at all over shift quality. Wind out manumatics and they crack off very hard shifts. They do the same for downshifts. They won’t let you do anything they don’t like - give them too much torque and they downshift regardless of what you tell them. Same with upshifts. I just give up and put them in automatic mode. I much prefer a manual - it does exactly what I want 95% of the time, and the other 5% is my screwup. I can live with that 5%. Want to pass someone without a lot of drama? Make a very downshift (if you even need to) and floor it - no drama at all. It doesn’t kick into 2nd, make a lot of noise, and jerk everyone in the car. Want a smooth deceleration? Just let the engine slow you down - automatics just freewheel anymore with no engine braking. Want a lot of drama? - just downshift and mash it. Mark <blockquote> On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Josh Luthman via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: Not at all. The up/down on the stick shift for manu-matic is just weird and awful. When you're using paddles it's more F1 like. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Mathew Howard via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> I've never driven a real paddle shift, but I did have a car with a manually shiftable automatic, which I'd guess is a somewhat similar experience... definitely not at all the same as a stick shift, but it does give you somewhat more of an involved feel than automatic. The lack of a clutch definitely would make a huge difference. From: Af [ af-boun...@afmug.com ] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [ af@afmug.com ] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff It's not the same thing AT ALL. It's a third gear box option. My car has automatic and paddle shift. It is not the same as driving the 6MT of the identical car at all. Remember there is no clutch and it is generally sequential, which is probably where that different feel of driving comes in. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> For manual lovers that have used "flappy-paddle gear boxes", how do they compare in the involvement with the driving experience? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Jason McKemie via Af" < af@afmug.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have been manual, I miss that quite a bit. On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more "involved". And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know how to drive a stick any more. -- bp <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote: <blockquote> On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: <blockquote> Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
