We use a 3000XL at our NOC with 4 100Ah 12v AGM in series.  We are pulling
about 1100 watts (37%).  We had a 6 hour outage and it made it through
fine.  The runtime claims that we have 7.6 hours.  I would just use a 700XL
if all you are using is 70w.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

>   It looks from the APC runtime graph that you should get 4 hours or
> close with the internal battery:
> http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SU2200XL
>
> You should be able to estimate runtime with different batteries from the
> information on that page or linked from there.
>
>
>  *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 3:30 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bigger batteries for Smart UPS
>
>
> 70 watt load.  I'd like to get 4 hours.  280 watt hours.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 20, 2015 4:25 PM, "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
>>  The 2200 is 48vdc iirc, for a 289 watt load It will be inefficient...
>> Better off with a 750xl
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> @gvillarini
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>   APC charger is calibrated for AGM, doesn’t flooded require different
>> voltages?  Maybe I’m wrong about that.  Certainly take out the internal AGM
>> batteries, you don’t want batteries of different chemistry in parallel.
>> I’ve only done it with external AGM, but as far as how you get to the right
>> voltage (I forget if 2200 VA is still 24V or that’s the point where they
>> started using 48V), I don’t think it matters if you put 2 x 12V or 4 x 6V
>> in series to get 24V.  I’m not sure you’ll find 24 or 48V batteries, the
>> choices are usually 2, 6 or 12 volt.  Make sure to put a fuse in each
>> series string of batteries.
>>
>>  *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:50 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bigger batteries for Smart UPS
>>
>>
>> Charger but also just an APC with the management.  So far I've got two
>> solutions: DC and APC.  I'd rather avoid another model or method to monitor.
>>
>> Should I just load up on some decent size wet cell and wire them up?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 20, 2015 3:32 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   I don’t have specific numbers for you, but I have observed that
>>> family gets pretty inefficient if you run it way below rated capacity.  You
>>> seem to hit a wall as you drop the load, like 200 watts for 4 hours, 100
>>> watts for 4 hours, 50 watts for 4 hours, no watts for 4 hours.  Especially
>>> if you are trying to push the runtime out to days.
>>>
>>> Any reason you are using a 2200 VA unit for only 70W?  Instead of, say,
>>> a 700 VA unit?  Wanting the faster charger?
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:14 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Bigger batteries for Smart UPS
>>>
>>>  I'm getting a bigger unit - SmartUPS XL 2200 - and I'm looking at
>>> batteries.  I have an Interstate Batteries and Batteries Plus near me so
>>> I'd like to go with either of them.
>>>
>>> This will be indoors.  I'm aiming to get 280 watt hours (70 watts, 4
>>> hours) of run time.  Is there any idea as to the inefficiency of the whole
>>> AC/DC/AC/DC process?
>>>
>>> What type of battery would be best?  Should I look for 12/24/48v
>>> batteries or does it matter (besides having to connect them in series)?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>

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