sure they do.  but i don't have to make it easy for them :)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Josh Reynolds 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 1:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>


  *everybody*, from the NSA, FBI, DEA, <insert agency here> knows everything 
you do already.

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 01/20/2015 10:35 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

not i.  i'm too paranoid google will catalog everything i see and do.
i still enjoy using an old netscape clone (seamoney) although chrome is loaded 
for certain tasks.
FYI - seamonkey is 3-5 seconds to load (sitting at "loading dashboard parms" ) 
; followed by a normal login.
no complaints - ok , min complaints.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>


  Everyone uses Chrome nowadays.




  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Example:  Powercode mostly loads and then seems to hang for quite awhile on 
Firefox, but loads fast on Chrome.


    On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

      I've never used EPMP but I have noticed some interfaces lag on one 
browser and not on another.  What browser is everyone using when they see lag?  
What browser are those of you who aren't seeing lag using?


      On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

        Good job of merging 2 threads!  You win one free Internet!

        From: Chuck McCown 
        Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:48 PM
        To: af@afmug.com 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>

        Yeah but you bought the advantage GUI license, right?

        From: Sean Heskett 
        Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:45 AM
        To: af@afmug.com 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>

        less than 5 seconds on my iPhone as well. 



        On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

          I doubt that 4 of my high end machines all have the same problem.  
The interface takes too long when it first shows up.  Maybe it's because it 
gets all the information at once, maybe not.  Don't care.  I want it to be more 
smooth and faster. 

          My phone (Droid Maxx) is one of the most recent models for Android.  
The interface is terribly slow and clumsy on that.

          Well if you feel a poor technology choice was the cause, that's fine, 
but it's just flat out wrong.  I don't want to carry a big fat i7 laptop up the 
tower when I could just simply use my phone.  It works with Ubiquiti, FSK 
Cambium, Tranzeo, Trango, Mikrotik, etc it should only make sense the one 
product with a clumsy interface needs fixed instead of changing my devices that 
work with the competitors products (as well as different products under their 
portfolio).



          Josh Luthman
          Office: 937-552-2340
          Direct: 937-552-2343
          1100 Wayne St
          Suite 1337
          Troy, OH 45373


          On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

            i'm just stating that on all of our computers i've never seen the 
ePMP page load slowly. 

            maybe it's a computer problem and not a device problem, just trying 
to bring valid input to the discussion.  

            On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

              Why are you/others arguing that the speed is just fine?  This 
doesn't even make sense.  There are people with slower laptops that work with 
other modern devices and epmp is the only interface that loads slow.  There's 
no point in arguing peoples valid complaints.  Are you trying to direct the 
engineers attention to something else?



              Josh Luthman
              Office: 937-552-2340
              Direct: 937-552-2343
              1100 Wayne St
              Suite 1337
              Troy, OH 45373


              On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> 
wrote:

                Three, maybe four seconds to load the initial screen and then 
two maybe three seconds to login. As I doubt a screen capture will work when 
I'm RDPed in, I'll record the entire login process when I get home and post it 
up on YouTube.




                -----
                Mike Hammett
                Intelligent Computing Solutions
                http://www.ics-il.com



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                From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
                To: af@afmug.com
                Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:26:09 PM
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>


                Login takes forever.  The first like 10-15 seconds just load 
and load and load.  Once you're in, it's acceptable in terms of page rendering.


                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340
                Direct: 937-552-2343
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373

                On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> 
wrote:

                  we use macbook pro's and the ePMP GUI has never been slow for 
us.  It was UGLY, but they fixed that with version 2.0 haha. 

                  not sure why everyone says it's slow tho because we've never 
seen it.

                  2 cents

                  -sean



                  On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Nate Burke 
<n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

                    Ok, Cambium, this is a little sad.  My Field Laptop, a 
Lenovo S10-3t, Atom Processor with Windows 8.1 cannot load the EPMP WEB Pages 
in a timely manner.  We're talking 40-60 seconds for initial load, and 20-30 
seconds per screen refresh/menu change.  Since I'm going to have to go to the 
boss, and tell him that I need a new laptop to do any field troubleshooting for 
these new radios, what are the minimum system specs for a machine to view the 
EPMP Screens?  Unless Cambium is going to get their Web interface under control 
as of Yesterday.

                    They still swear that the GUI was all developed in house 
and not purchased (something I still can't believe).  I'd like to know who the 
engineers/managers are who signed off on that design.  I can only imaging that 
there was a group of guys sitting around the conference table, watching the 
presentation on the GUI on the projector up front, all nodding their heads in 
agreement, "I think this is a wonderful layout, the field tech's won't mind 
waiting a couple extra minutes for the pages to load so they can look this 
pretty!!"

                    I think that Cambium should step up and get engineers from 
ALL aspects of product development out into the field.  40 seconds waiting for 
the page to load is fine when you're sitting in the office, but not when you 
have the laptop balanced on a stack of firewood in the freezing rain trying to 
get to the monitoring page to see why a radio isn't linking up.  I think that 
every WISP on this list would be more than happy to host an engineer for a day. 
Heck, even if they go into the parking lot and assemble it on the tailgate of 
someone's Pickup, they'll get some idea of what we experience.

                    I have a feeling that if all steps of the Dev process took 
a week in the field, We'd have a radio that had a GUI that responded instantly 
on any device, and radios that assembled and mounted (and unmounted) with 1 
gloved hand.

                    </rant>
                    Nate















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