Some hoppers can be programmed to skip chunks of spectrum.    Not sure on
smart meter

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 5, 2015 12:27 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

>   I thought they were using FHSS across the entire 28 MHz to send a very
> low bit rate, plus they have essentially a mesh network that gives them
> multiple paths for redundancy.  So because they are using a sledgehammer to
> kill a mosquito, they should be very immune to interference.
>
> More of a problem for them is probably people who opt out of having a
> smartmeter on their house, although they are allowed to charge those
> customers an additional fee for manual meter reading.  In my case I refused
> the smartmeter, but they just came back and got my wife to let them put it
> on the house.  Now my 900 MHz cordless phone has a buzzing sound in the
> background.  But there is a repeater on the pole in front of my next door
> neighbor, so it probably would have buzzed anyway.
>
>
>  *From:* Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:21 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....
>
>  Perhaps a stupid question; but what if ComEd deploys in an area that is
> already very noisy due to WISPs?
>
> Will they see issues?  Will it be enough to convince them not to use that
> particular technology in the area?
>
> Josh
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>>   I wonder how secure smartgrid is, given they seem to be taking the
>> cheap approach at the physical layer.  I’m waiting for the news stories
>> about hackers in North Korea turning peoples electricity on and off via
>> their smartmeters.  (Remember on Big Bang Theory when they put their lamp
>> and stereo on the Internet?)  And if you think smartmeters are read only
>> and don’t have the ability to shut you off remotely for nonpayment, I have
>> a bridge to sell you.
>>
>> Of course, hackers for hire are so hard to find.
>>
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/hacker-for-hire-job-board-reveals-hack-requests/
>>
>>  *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <geo...@cbcast.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:59 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....
>>
>>  You guys know I'm happy to see this happen, but we might never be able
>> to use it because of ComEd's planned smart grid roll-out this year. I hate
>> my life.
>>
>> On 2/4/2015 5:08 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
>>
>>  Just to correct something glaringly wrong here…. The 900 MHz PMP 450
>> product is expected to launch in Q4, 2015, with a 5!
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Rory McCann
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 1:22 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....
>>
>>
>>
>> That's exactly it. This isn't a product aimed towards the guys that
>> advertise streaming, nor is it aimed towards a user base that wants to do
>> solely that. It's a product designed for the customer with no other good
>> options.
>>
>> With the data caps on cellular 4G and the all around piss-poor
>> performance of satellite, some customers only have 900MHz Canopy as another
>> viable option aside from dialup. In our area it's going to be big for the
>> company that purchased our WISP - especially since the group they are a
>> part of who owns their 700MHz spectrum is flirting with selling it to ATT.
>>
>> Rory McCann
>>
>> MKAP Technology Solutions
>>
>> Web: www.mkap.net
>>
>> On 2/4/2015 12:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>>   In fairness, some WISPs have consistently said they are deep in trees
>> and 900 MHz spectrum is clean for them and also their customer base doesn’t
>> need to stream 4K, they just want more throughput than 900 FSK will give
>> them.  Via wider channels, higher modulation, or magic.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know many of us can’t make the same statements about noise floor or
>> customer expectations, but some people consistently say they want such a
>> product.  And who knows, maybe there’s some magic, too?  Like maybe more
>> robustness to multipath, which seems to bother 900 FSK quite a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Andy Trimmell <atrimm...@precisionds.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:47 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....
>>
>>
>>
>> 40Mbps by late 2016 should be just in time so we can hook up 1 customer
>> to it because 4K TV will be streaming 50Mbps on Netflix
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:13 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps as much as 40 Mbps....
>>
>>
>>
>> Dontcha wish you were at Animal Farm....
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....
>>
>>
>>
>> 3x throughput increase
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....
>>
>>
>>
>> 40 MHz channels
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