Yeah, check the local stores.  They don't list them online, but all of our
local stores still have them.  YMMV.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Looking at the Sam's Club website, it looks like they only have Duracell
> AGM batteries now, which I'm not sure who makes... but anyway, they have a
> 105AH group 31 for about $180 - that seems like a pretty good way to go.
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The 'energizer' batteries at Sam's Club are actually these:
>> http://www.johnsoncontrols.com/content/us/en/products/power-solutions/products/lead-acid/absorbent-glass-mat/heavy-duty-truck.html
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, they sell Optima Blue and Yellow and also Johnson Controls AGM
>>> batteries.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Are you saying Sam’s club sells AGMs?
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 09, 2015 8:28 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bateries
>>>>
>>>>  In a car battery type form-factor, you can't beat Sam's club.  The
>>>> 'Energizer' AGM are actually rebranded Johnson Controls batteries (the
>>>> maker of Optima).  I haven't seen an equal battery of that size anywhere
>>>> for the prices that they sell them for.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:27 PM, That One Guy <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We have gotten pretty lucky on our batteries, we average 5-8 years at
>>>>> most sites, we are in central illinois. Last year destroyed a majority of
>>>>> our batteries, and the expanding problem destroyed alot of our APCs, Its
>>>>> time to replace our aged APCs anyway since all we can get are overstoc or
>>>>> used management cards for the models we have. the old 750xl were the
>>>>> perfect efficient solution for our sites, but they changed the form factor
>>>>> on those to not be usable, the 1000xl still has the desktop form factor 
>>>>> but
>>>>> are inefficient for our purpose.
>>>>>
>>>>> The way I look at it is if I can find a good generic external battery
>>>>> solution for our current APC runtime need, I will more easily be able to
>>>>> migrate to a different solution should one present that does what APC does
>>>>> at a similar cost if we arent locked into the APC packs. We also have 
>>>>> three
>>>>> of the huge external packs (dont know the part number) that arent holding
>>>>> charge anymore that I would prefer to replace with a generic array.
>>>>>
>>>>> As much as I hate to be brand locked, APC makes a solid product at a
>>>>> good price
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:19 PM, That One Guy <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to assume maintenance on batteries will not be done since i
>>>>>> have to fight tooth an nail to get time alloted for maintenance on sites
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:22 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you positive agm outlasts flooded cell's, if proper maintenance
>>>>>>> is done?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  You want AGM batteries.  They generally last longer, and are
>>>>>>>> maintenance free (no water required).  They can also handle deeper
>>>>>>>> discharge cycles than everything except lithium.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I recently had to get some batteries ASAP, and found what I needed
>>>>>>>> at a local Interstate battery store.  We will see how long they last.
>>>>>>>> We've gotten as much as 8 years on our Concorde SunXtenders (all AGM).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/9/2015 9:57 AM, That One Guy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know this horse is about as abused as a woman that doesnt listen
>>>>>>>> well, but Im looking for a brand/model number of battery that would be 
>>>>>>>> god
>>>>>>>> for sites, primarily in the winter but some heat in the summer that we 
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> replace the APC external packs with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Id like to source them locally like NAPA, Autozone, etc rather than
>>>>>>>> order them if possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What exactly am I looking for in a battery. Most likely the sites
>>>>>>>> that these would go to are sites we would put a generator on, so its 
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> likely they would be depleted, but is a rare possibility. Mainly we are
>>>>>>>> looking to get a longer window to get a generator to the site and a 
>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>> run if the generator fails or runs out of fuel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When running a battery bank is it recomended to buy all the
>>>>>>>> batteries at the same time and replace them at the same time?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
>>>>>>>> that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. 
>>>>>>>> Therefore, if
>>>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
>>>>>>>> means, do
>>>>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
>>>>>> that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, 
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, 
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do 
>>>>> not
>>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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