Yes, assuming they're accurate, but that may be a lot to assume... On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> Assuming the plots are accurate, they're all that matters. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Jerry Richardson" <je...@richardson.bz> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:22:27 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz > > That’s what I was basing my first reply on, but then I saw that note. > > > > So, which to believe? The hand drawn plot or the note? LOL > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:12 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz > > > > If the pattern in the spec sheet is accurate, this one looks like it's > actually a bit more than 120 at -3db > http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=HW-SA58-120-16D&eq=&Tp=&o1=0 > > These also look to be a full 120 at -3db > http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=SA4958-120-19-D&eq=&Tp=&o1=0 > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Jerry Richardson <je...@richardson.bz> > wrote: > > You are right, there’s a little note that says 120* is -6dB. Bastards… > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:11 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz > > > > That's the one I was talking about, but it's not exactly a real 120 > either... > > * All beam widths are listed at the 3dB point except for 120° beam > > on horizontal polarization is listed at 6dB point > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Jerry Richardson <je...@richardson.bz> > wrote: > > Here’ a real 120deg dual pol sector. > > > > http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5821SD1_DS_061312.pdf > > > > Jerry > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:13 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz > > > > This needs to sync with a full cluster of Canopy APs that is only 3 miles > away. > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 2/17/2015 5:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > There is always the business case to use another vendor with lower ROI. > > Josh Reynolds > > CIO, SPITwSPOTS > > j...@spitwspots.com > > www.spitwspots.com > > On 2/17/2015 3:50 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > This site is not ABAB. It's not even AB. It is merely A. One sector; 120° > wide, with about 15 subs. About as low as you can go. The problem is that > most of the subs are near the outer edges of a 120° sector. Dividing it > into 2 sectors would be an option if we had (or expected) more subs, but > this one I don't think that will happen. I'm not inclined to burn a Canopy > AP (or two even) on 7 or 8 subs each. > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 2/17/2015 12:13 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I think asking for 3 dB down at 120 degrees in dual pol with matching > patterns, good F/B and good sidelobes is not going to happen. I’d plan on > ABAB and look for a 90 degree sector. > > > > Hmmmm, the published patterns for the KPP “Gen III” are kind of ugly, > aren’t they? Plus the HPOL and VPOL azimuth patterns don’t match very well. > > > > *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 2:05 PM > > *To:* af <af@afmug.com> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz > > > > I thought the KP sectors were suppose to be -3db at 120... I think almost > everything is rated at -6db now. > > > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The new 120 is the old 90....search for something advertised as wider > than 120 I guess? > > What I'm looking for is a 120° sector that drops off no more than 3db at > the edges. The 6 db bull that seems to be common these days is not what > I'm looking for. > > Also want good F/B ratio, good cross-pol performance, and tiny side > lobes. In perfect world, it would drop off 30db at 121°. > > I want a pony too. > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 2/17/2015 10:50 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Good drop off is a good thing IMO. > > > > If you want less drop off probably go with an original Airmax sector. > Those things bleed for days and the f/b isn't very good. We installed > half a dozen people 180* off one of them. > > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > > No one? > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 2/17/2015 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > > Has anyone found a decent TRUE 120° dual-polarity sector in 5 GHz? > We're using a KP on one of our POPs and the drop-off at the edge of > the 120° is just too much for our taste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
