The important thing here is this is part of a cable TV offering from Comcast, 
and HBO Go is only available to subscribers who pay their cable TV provider for 
the HBO channel.  Hence the need for authentication.

This is on the cable TV side of the house, not the Internet side.  People may 
be unhappy because they want it and Comcast is the only cable TV game in town, 
but that’s a lack of competition issue, not a Net Neutrality issue.  Nothing to 
see here, move along.

If Comcast blocked HBO Now (the upcoming OTT service), that would be different.


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 10:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comcast vs. HBO Go on PS4?

It's a Comcast thing. For whatever reason, they haven't provided Sony with 
access to their authentication servers that they've provided to others.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 9:43:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comcast vs. HBO Go on PS4?


I may be wrong, but it seems to me this is actually a case of Sony's app not 
supporting Comcast (yes, it may be because of some crazy restrictions Comcast 
has), not the other way around. That's kind of like saying that the fact I 
can't connect to xbox live with a playstation is a net neutrality violation.


On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com> wrote:

  The only thing in the article which undermines that reading of the facts is 
this line: “Roku eventually got approval last December, but Sony devices are 
still locked out.”



  That implies that Comcast customers are allowed to use the HBOGo service, but 
only with certain, pre-approved by Comcast, clients. That might run afoul of 
the new Net Neutrality rules, especially if the protocols, ports and bitrates 
are identical, regardless of of the client used. 



  It’s one thing for a cable provider (like Time Warner) to refuse to 
participate in an unrelated network’s non-broadcast offerings (like the Disney 
Channel app), it may be another for the provider to say people running the app 
on an iPhone can use it, but people using the Windows Phone version cannot. 
We’re in uncharted territory here!



  n  Darren



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 7:22 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Comcast vs. HBO Go on PS4?



  Based just on a quick Google search (so I could be mistaken), this appears to 
be total bullshit.  This is how HBO Go describes itself on their website:



  “Get unlimited access to all your favorite HBO® shows, hit movies, sports, 
comedy and more, plus bonus features and behind-the-scenes extras. It’s all 
free with your HBO subscription through participating television providers and 
available on your favorite devices.”



  In other words, it’s exactly the same as complaining that a WISP doesn’t 
“give” its customers ESPN3.



  HBO Go appears not to be an OTT service with individual subscriptions.  It 
appears to be an extra, Internet based service that comes only with HBO from a 
cable provider.  So the complaint appears to be that Comcast has not offered 
HBO Go to its cable customers who have HBO.  It seems to me that is different 
from “blocking” HBO Go to your Internet customers, as the article claims.





  From: Mike Hammett 

  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 7:08 PM

  To: Animal Farm 

  Subject: [AFMUG] Comcast vs. HBO Go on PS4?



  
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/200479-this-is-why-we-need-internet-regulation-comcast-blocks-hbo-go-app-from-working-on-ps4

  Do we know anything about this? The article above runs over Comcast with a 
bus, but does little to technically explain why\how Comcast is blocking them.


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