Cacti does not use MRTG. It has it's own internal polling system. Cacti does use RRDTOOL though.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/9/2015 10:19 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
MRTG is OSS. Maybe you're thinking of Cacti which utilizes MRTG and has a workable interface and such.


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On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

    Am I thinking of MRTG?  One of them is free....
    PRTG is free if you don’t monitor over 5 devices isn’t it?
    *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
    *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 11:15 AM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
    network torouted. (More Info)
    Not free. http://www.paessler.com/prtg/price_list
    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373
    On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

        PRTG is free and will monitor all your stuff if you fire up an
        internal subnet for it.
        *From:* Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>
        *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 10:43 AM
        *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a
        bridged network torouted. (More Info)

        Alright so I have always said I am not proud too admit when I
        am uneducated in an area if it means learning something I need
        to know. So as embarrassing as it is Ill open to robe.

        All APs are Cambium FSK and we are now deploying the PMP450 as
        well. Backhauls are a mix of companies but we are looking to
        try and standardize, Cambium, and Ligowave are the most used.

        Ill just use one site because they are all evolved in a
        similar way. But we have several different sites that are all
        very similar.

        The site I would like to do first is Tower one, 5 FSK APs
        (PMP450 coming soon) This site has a shed no heat and my
        equipment at the base is secured in a locking large steel box.
        Think of a truck tool box. Backhauled to Tower 2 through
        Ligowave and tower two has 5 FSK APs and one PMP450. This site
        is really remote no roads and its all tied together in a
        weatherproof box.

        So no managed switches, Single IP and DHCP. Never went then
        way of NAT.

        We have no real monitoring for customers date use, we limit up
        and down speeds at the SM. We don’t shape no caps you get the
        idea. So existing equipment is useless for this process. Our
        customers are quite happy with the services but I am blind. I
        will most likely double my size in the next 6 months and I
        can’t keep doing it this way.

        Brandon

        *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
        <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
        *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 10:51 AM
        *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a
        bridged networktorouted.

        Also, depending on your monitoring system, you should be able
        to track CPE and AP bandwidth as is.

        On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
        <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

        The availability of inexpensive Mikrotik routers made this
        much less of an issue than it used to be.  Even at micropops
        that I bridge, I put a small Mikrotik like a 450G or a 2011
        there as a managed switch.  That way it can be converted to
        routed, often without a truck roll.

        One question is how you assign IP addresses to customers.
        Static with NAT in CPE? DHCP?  PPPoE? Do you NAT multiple
        customers to one public IP?  This may determine which approach
        is easiest to migrate to. Router at each tower with block of
        public IPs? VLANs to central site with big central router?

        *From:*That One Guy <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>

        *Sent:*Monday, March 09, 2015 10:23 AM

        *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a
        bridged networktorouted.

        not to hijack you, but there are some who maintain a fully
        bridged network and use VLAN instead of routing, this I am
        curious about, it may be a cost effective solution for you as
        well.

        I started our migration 4ish years ago and had the budget cut
        out from under me with only half the routers deployed, let me
        tell you, a 50/50 network sucks a great deal to manage.
        whatever you do, make sure you have all your routers on your
        desk before you begin

        On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
        <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

            Everyone seems to have lived through this evolution at
            some point.

            A bridged WISP is asking for trouble.

            How many APs and how many sites?  Are the switches at the
            sites capable of supporting VLANs?  That is where I would
            start. Either that or replacing the switches with routers.
            Personally, one router with VLANS to each AP via managed
            switches would be my preference.

            *From:*Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>

            *Sent:*Monday, March 09, 2015 9:10 AM

            *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

            *Subject:*[AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a
            bridged network torouted.

            I am looking for help converting our network from bridged
            to routed. This is something I don’t have a lot of
            background in but I also don’t want to end the process
            having a system I can’t fix so I will need someone that is
            willing to both do the work and teach me at the same time.
            Depending on how the process works in regards to time I am
            hoping to spend an hour a week working over the phone and
            through a remote desktop app.

            My main reasons for working on this now are I need to see
            bandwidth use per SM, per AP, and have better ways of
            tracking both long term. We are just to blind right now
            and starting to really grow again I need to get it under
            control now before we get to large.

            I am open to suggestions on routers but already had
            purchased microtik and butches scripts which after trying
            and failing to get it to work never implemented.

            Contact me off list bran...@gogebicrange.net
            <mailto:bran...@gogebicrange.net> if you can help.

            Thanks,

            Brandon Yuchasz

            GogebicRange.net



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