PRTG is free and will monitor all your stuff if you fire up an
internal subnet for it.
*From:* Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>
*Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 10:43 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
network torouted. (More Info)
Alright so I have always said I am not proud too admit when I am
uneducated in an area if it means learning something I need to
know. So as embarrassing as it is Ill open to robe.
All APs are Cambium FSK and we are now deploying the PMP450 as
well. Backhauls are a mix of companies but we are looking to try
and standardize, Cambium, and Ligowave are the most used.
Ill just use one site because they are all evolved in a similar
way. But we have several different sites that are all very similar.
The site I would like to do first is Tower one, 5 FSK APs (PMP450
coming soon) This site has a shed no heat and my equipment at the
base is secured in a locking large steel box. Think of a truck
tool box. Backhauled to Tower 2 through Ligowave and tower two
has 5 FSK APs and one PMP450. This site is really remote no roads
and its all tied together in a weatherproof box.
So no managed switches, Single IP and DHCP. Never went then way
of NAT.
We have no real monitoring for customers date use, we limit up
and down speeds at the SM. We don’t shape no caps you get the
idea. So existing equipment is useless for this process. Our
customers are quite happy with the services but I am blind. I
will most likely double my size in the next 6 months and I can’t
keep doing it this way.
Brandon
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
*Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 10:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
networktorouted.
Also, depending on your monitoring system, you should be able to
track CPE and AP bandwidth as is.
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
The availability of inexpensive Mikrotik routers made this much
less of an issue than it used to be. Even at micropops that I
bridge, I put a small Mikrotik like a 450G or a 2011 there as a
managed switch. That way it can be converted to routed, often
without a truck roll.
One question is how you assign IP addresses to customers. Static
with NAT in CPE? DHCP? PPPoE? Do you NAT multiple customers to
one public IP? This may determine which approach is easiest to
migrate to. Router at each tower with block of public IPs? VLANs
to central site with big central router?
*From:*That One Guy <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
*Sent:*Monday, March 09, 2015 10:23 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
networktorouted.
not to hijack you, but there are some who maintain a fully
bridged network and use VLAN instead of routing, this I am
curious about, it may be a cost effective solution for you as well.
I started our migration 4ish years ago and had the budget cut out
from under me with only half the routers deployed, let me tell
you, a 50/50 network sucks a great deal to manage. whatever you
do, make sure you have all your routers on your desk before you begin
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Everyone seems to have lived through this evolution at some
point.
A bridged WISP is asking for trouble.
How many APs and how many sites? Are the switches at the
sites capable of supporting VLANs? That is where I would
start. Either that or replacing the switches with routers.
Personally, one router with VLANS to each AP via managed
switches would be my preference.
*From:*Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>
*Sent:*Monday, March 09, 2015 9:10 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*[AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
network torouted.
I am looking for help converting our network from bridged to
routed. This is something I don’t have a lot of background in
but I also don’t want to end the process having a system I
can’t fix so I will need someone that is willing to both do
the work and teach me at the same time. Depending on how the
process works in regards to time I am hoping to spend an hour
a week working over the phone and through a remote desktop app.
My main reasons for working on this now are I need to see
bandwidth use per SM, per AP, and have better ways of
tracking both long term. We are just to blind right now and
starting to really grow again I need to get it under control
now before we get to large.
I am open to suggestions on routers but already had purchased
microtik and butches scripts which after trying and failing
to get it to work never implemented.
Contact me off list bran...@gogebicrange.net
<mailto:bran...@gogebicrange.net> if you can help.
Thanks,
Brandon Yuchasz
GogebicRange.net
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