Are you taking full routing tables from your provider(s) on the edge?  If
so, I would probably re-think your thoughts on going with something like a
RB 1100AH in this role.

Take a look at the 951's for customer CPE routers.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:02 PM, That One Guy <[email protected]>
wrote:

> RB 1100AHx2 was what I was looking at, on the edge, our current bigger
> pipe is only 300mbps today, so that would seem sufficient based on your
> description of use, since the other is smaller, at this price migrating it
> down into the network if we hit growth quickly wouldnt be a dealbreaker.
> Its unlikely we would be doing much beyond routing, no shaping or anything
> of that nature anywhere in the near term.
>
> Josh hating on the hardware does concern me though.
>
> We had dicked around with a few RB 750 in the past for a couple test
> cases, looking more toward replacing wired Dlinks for residential
> customers, but had to use it in a pinch at a small site, never saw any
> issue and liked the toolsets. Is there a comparable unit to the Air Routers
> for a residential solution (we normally provide an air router unless the
> customer wants to use their own, we bridge the CPE radios on all but a
> handful of customers) The two main things we prefer out of the Air router
> is the ability to disable the reset button, and the wireless coverage is
> sufficient for a free consumer router) would have to hit the same
> pricepoint as the airrouter. Torch at the customer is a selling point
> though. out of curiousity, one thing we couldnt do with air router was
> tiered users on the device. We wanted to be able to give the customer a
> login where they can do whatever they want with the exception of changing
> the WAN config away from DHCP, or changing our remote access to the device.
> can you do this in MT?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Gabriel Pike <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> We use Mikrotiks for all of our routers. We have a similar set up to the
>> one you describe. I have 2 WAN routers doing BGP and iBGP between them with
>> OSPF for internal routing. I really like Mikrotiks. I was trained with
>> Cisco products in College but Mikrotiks were an easy transition. We use
>> mostly RB 1100AHx2’s but I am about to upgrade our core routers to CCR
>> series. We take in 300Mbps through both internet feeds and I am starting to
>> max the CPU of the 1100AHX2’s.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Gabriel Pike
>>
>> Network Support and Engineering
>>
>> MTCNA
>>
>> DMCI Broadband, LLC <http://dmcibb.net/>
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> 877.936.2422
>>
>> Ext. 103
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 4:04 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations
>>
>>
>>
>> Generally you use x86 for the purchase of a license.  That's where they
>> started their business.  Baltic/Titan/etc have their "suggested" models
>> which are just x86 machines with RouterOS on them already.  I'd use these
>> 1000x before I touched ImageStream at tower sites.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:00 PM, That One Guy <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Are you guys saying, you purchase the router OS and put it on third party
>> hardware over using their hardware? What hardware do you find yourselves
>> using, if not routerboard?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> We do 99% of what we need on MT level 4. You only need level 5 or 6 if
>> you have a bunch of tunnels. Get what you need mainly based on throughput
>> and simultaneous connections. A lowly RB493 easily handles tens of
>> thousands simultaneous connections, and a X86 router probably another order
>> of magnitude. I think the typical connection table on any of the newer
>> boards can get up around 500,000 connections.
>>
>> If you have solar powered sites, I think that MT is the only game in town.
>>
>> I've had limited success with their switches, and I do not consider them
>> a robust solution. So if you need decent switches in your infrastructure,
>> and you like your Procurves, stick with them. That said, I have stuck in
>> quite a few routerboards and used them as switches no problem.
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/30/2015 12:26 PM, That One Guy wrote:
>>
>> After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the
>> right fit for our network and budget.
>>
>>
>>
>> I dont fully understand the licensing tiers
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there a sizing chart on these?
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the interface similar between the router models and the switch models?
>> Are the mikrotik switches comparable to the HP procurve in reliability?
>>
>>
>>
>> It would be the bees knees to see out network more universal as far as
>> management interfaces go, we have three purposes for routers:
>>
>>
>>
>> our upstream routers, which we have 2, will ultimately be running OSPF
>> internally and BGP externally (current thought) 200mbps-1gbps projected
>> need through the next couple of years.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our network/POP routers ranging from 1 customer at a POP to 150
>>
>>
>>
>> A residential solution comparable to the UBNT AirRouters (1-25mbps rate
>> plans) wifi capable.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the switches have similar interfaces, we would look toward replacing a
>> combination of UBNT toughswitch POE, and a variety of HP procurves from
>> 1810G to 2510G and their other POE models.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I note alot of discussion regarding MT ethernet negotiation flakiness,
>> how much of an impact does this present? Right now we have imagestream and
>> fortigate on the network, and have zero issues with that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The decision to go toward mikrotik is primarily based on cost and
>> community support availability within the industry. (this consideration has
>> alot to do with a single point of administrative failure in only having one
>> person, me, training to design, maintain, support, and grow the network, in
>> the event i became absent from the picture) The winbox interface and
>> feature availability within was also a primary consideration for support
>> staff.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to her from people entrenched in MT who love/hate it,
>> anybody who turned their back on it, and anybody who moved toward it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
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