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“Apparently my conclusion based on my personal extensive analysis over a period of team coupled with my vast engineering experience has been vindicated.” Slap your P.R. guy. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 11:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why are External Hard Drives so Cheap? I was right?!?!?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Chad Dewey <nebwirel...@gmail.com<mailto:nebwirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: From a Seagate engineer: They can be the same drive design but a lot of the external drives are early units with relaxed specs for error rates usually and can be waterfalled (by this I mean design capacity is higher but could not meet the OEM specs or full capacity during testing, helps with thruput yields) from higher capacities. The basic reliability should be very similar if the design point is the same. External 3TB's or any capacity point may vary from box to box may have multiple different drive designs types which meet the capacity but can vary by performance and capability. This is true for internals to a lesser degree. Drives that go to retail (Bestbuy etc....) have the lowest reliabilty specs to ship with OEM's being the toughest. I should also state that internals typically have tougher vibe and temperature specs with higher duty cycle life expectations, a lot of externals are merely back up hence the lower quality requirements. On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: Good point. There could also be some short-cutting on the thermal/utilization level. For example, a lot of people tried to use the use the 30GB hard drives in the Apple iPods as computer drives and they would fail very quickly. They weren’t designed for a lot of head movements. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 8:24 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why are External Hard Drives so Cheap? yeah, it just matters the drive inside the enclosure as far as the price goes. Cheap, slow drives since its USB or ethernet connecting them on a consumer scale, half the PCs are still 10/100 or usb2.0, or in their home wifi network doing little more than moving one file at a time. For whatever reason, most of the USB drives Ive opened have seagate laptop drives in them, Ive never been a seagate fan because they used to have such a high failure rate. Probably doesnt matter though since theyre probably all being made in the same factory by only the finest 12 year old taiwaneese craftsman On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Caleb Knauer <cknauer.li...@gmail.com<mailto:cknauer.li...@gmail.com>> wrote: I think the internal drives are typically slower and with less cache but I've done no research lately so this opinion is worth little. On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com<mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote: > Why does it seem like the $/Gig are way less on external drives than > internal drives? Aren't they basically a regular hard drive in an > enclosure? > > Best Buy has a 3tb External Drive with Ethernet (they call it a NAS) for > $80, Cheapest price for a 3tb Internal Drive on Amazon is $85 > > 4tb External Drives are $90, Amazon has Internals for $130 -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
