You’ve got to charge for something. It has become standard practice not to
charge for minutes, even though you get charged for minutes. So some
combination of $X per DID and $Y per extension. Especially when you are
talking to businesses, they are used to paying per “line”, where if they want
to be able to have Z simultaneous incoming or outgoing calls, they need Z
lines, usually each with its own DID but configured as a rollover or hunt group
to the main number. But with VoIP you can have as many calls as you want with
just one “line”, so you need a different model. Also, features like voicemail
and call waiting and caller ID that used to bring in tons of money for the
phone companies are now expected free as part of standard service. So you need
to charge for something. Otherwise you end up supporting 20 or 100 handsets
with unlimited local and long distance for a total of $20 per month and you go
broke. I think the idea is that an extension is a placeholder for a bucket of
minutes, if a business or MDU has 100 extensions, they will likely make 100
times as many calls as someone with one extension. On the other hand, a
business with 1 DID and 100 extensions probably shouldn’t pay as much as 100
individual customers each with an extensions and a DID, especially since you
will probably pay some small amount per month per DID for origination.
From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 8:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
With the technology we have today, why do we still use the PSTN?
Does anyone know if Anyone has VoIP provider to another VoIP provider
discounts?
I also need a multi-tenant platform. Something I'd like to do is have each cell
phone be a virtual extension without having to pay monthly for each and every
phone I use. The average VoIP provider out there has a max of 15 Virtual
Extensions and charges at least $10/mo just to have that. With some that rarely
get used that is quite a bit. Anyone have any thoughts?
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com> wrote:
What are people using for their multi-tenant voip platform?
On 4/6/2015 6:12 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote:
I use voip.ms. Love 'em.
On 04/06/2015 03:55 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Why not get SIP trunk, origination, termination, and DIDs from voip.ms or
similar? We use VoIP Innovations but they have a $200/mo minimum. It looks
like voip.ms has no monthly minimum, there is a $25 deposit which you replenish
when you use it up.
Assuming you have existing numbers you want to port, you also need
backoffice support for the LNP process, and you need a relationship with a CLEC
that can provide origination (incoming calls) for the NPA/NXX of that DID. A
VoIP wholesaler like VI or voip.ms has a bunch of CLECs they use for various
DIDs.
From: James Howard
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 5:31 PM
To: mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
Will you sell SIP trunks to anyone? What do you charge for them?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 5:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
I don’t know about most, but we will.
From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 3:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
I had no idea that most phone companies would sell you a SIP trunk. nifty.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
You call up you local telephone company and ask for a sip trunk...
-----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 12:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
I expect there to be some cost, but these companies that want a fortune
for a small amount of minutes are ridiculous. I'm okay with paying some amount
for unlimited, but not a small amount per minute.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Apr 6, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
If you want to place calls to/from the PSTN and not pay a dime,
you're dreaming.
-----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 1:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] VoIP
I've played a bit with asterisk in the past along with similar
products. I'm not really all that familiar with VoIP solutions or
configuration, but if like to be. I want to start playing around with something
to really familiarize myself with it.
The problem is that all I've seen is solutions where I'd have to pay
for my SIP trunk or for some kind of service. Is it possible to get a fully
functional VoIP solution using basic hardware for nothing? I can host my own
SIP trunk I'm sure, but how do I get my phones to route to other phones and my
number coming in to route to my phone system? Am I in a dream world, or is this
actually possible?
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
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