Since we are way off track and talking about vehicles and wasting money, I
just bought this...

It was less than $100k and has great range. (Although not very fuel
efficient.)

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Steve D <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What is a good reason to like any vehicle?  It's all arbitrary value that
> each of us would find!  Some people just like electric, but they want
> something more comfortable than Leaf?
>
> Hell, even if I had $100k laying around, I don't think I'd buy a car at
> all, maybe a nice boat.  But what's the point of that?  I can't drive it on
> roads!  :O
>
> -Steve D
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What is a good reason to like a Tesla?  I think it looks cool and it is a
>> neat idea, but I don't see any use for it myself.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Steve D <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can also haul more crap with an F-150, so there's one more arbitrary
>>> reason to not like a Tesla.
>>>
>>> -Steve D
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 100k for a toy car?
>>>>
>>>> Go faster with a GTR.
>>>> Look cooler with a Ferrari 360.
>>>> Be more comfortable in a Jag XF (R?)
>>>> Want better mileage on your electric car?  Leaf or something of the
>>>> sort.
>>>>
>>>> These are all cheaper options if you're after a toy car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Tesla is still a toy though.  Even with all its, any luxury car is a
>>>>> better value.  When there are alternatives or the next gen battery hits 
>>>>> the
>>>>> market, not just a slightly better version of what Tesla has but a
>>>>> carbon-iron or carbon anything, then a long range electric has real value.
>>>>> Out in Arizona at 80mph or slightly more average in 100-115 degree weather
>>>>> and even hotter on the open highway, with air-conditioning, I'd be
>>>>> surprised to see their biggest battery last 200 miles.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:16 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tesla S is cool.  Being able to drive 3-4 hours and not be stuck for 8
>>>>> is better.  Once they get more charging stations (at least in major 
>>>>> cities,
>>>>> come on!) I can see it being available to way more people.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow... that is really interesting ... I looked at putting solar at my
>>>>> house before and the number of panels, the cost etc didn't make it
>>>>> worthwhile.  I was quoted $25k in panels at the time ... think I may 
>>>>> revisit
>>>>> though and get additional quotes ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW - a friend of mine has a Tesla S and loves it... I'm seriously
>>>>> considering one now as well
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Wright
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 11:31 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know how many cycles it can handle, but max draw per pack is
>>>>> 2kW continuous, 3.3kW peak.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Wright
>>>>>
>>>>> Network Administrator
>>>>>
>>>>> Velociter Wireless
>>>>>
>>>>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 01, 2015 10:38 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would want to run it DC, but it ain't bad. We're paying in the
>>>>> neighborhood of $1500 for about 5KWh with SLA batteries, so this would be 
>>>>> a
>>>>> serious consideration.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to know what the maximum draw-down is, and how many
>>>>> charge/discharge cycles, etc. etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>>
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 5/1/2015 10:20 AM, Peter Kranz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to see more specs, but a 10kWh AC UPS for $3500.. ï¿ 1/2 thatï¿ 
>>>>> 1/2 s a
>>>>> decent price.
>>>>>
>>>>> ï¿ 1/2
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall
>>>>>
>>>>> ï¿ 1/2
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ï¿ 1/2
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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