“Maintenance” sounds like a software upgrade.

Steve, is it possible all those cable modems are actually up, maybe even 
including yours, and the new software conflicts with some protocol you are 
running over the link?

I know that 1-2 years ago when Comcast upgraded modems, it broke our EoIP 
tunnels and we had to switch to EoIP over PPTP.  We were able to ping and 
Winbox into our router at the other end though, just the tunnel didn’t work.

Are your customers getting TV over this or strictly Internet?


From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 10:18 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

He said it was 137 out of 137 on that node... I'm fairly certain there is no 
part of our network half that size that I could break for most of a day without 
at least one customer resetting stuff.

In my opinion, not only is it not possibly that at least 1 out of 137 didn't 
already power cycle, but it's very hard to believe that at least one didn't 
power cycle while they were on the phone with the cable company... meaning they 
know very well (or at least should...) that something is wrong.



On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> wrote:

  >>>i find it hard to believe that in that amount of time not a single one of 
the 137 down modems had been restarted. name any section of your network that 
137 customers could be down and you go almost the whole day without a single 
person calling or powercycling


  Everything is relative..... 137 out of how many ? and yes, there are folks 
who don't live off the internet like us and our customers ! 
  (It's a bit of an oxymoron, but think about it, if you are a causal user of 
internet, you got your TV, and Internet from the cable company, and since you 
don't use it heavily, you have no reason to look for something better ! )

  Personally, I would not recommend anyone spend a great deal of their time 
trying to 'reverse engineer' a Cable company's or Telco's behavior... your time 
will be better spent in trying to understand your wife or girl friend or 
daughter .. (all of them are impossible tasks !)

  :)


  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232


  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 



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    From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 10:52:42 PM 

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] please reboot


    im down for alot of things 


    i find it hard to believe that in that amount of time not a single one of 
the 137 down modems had been restarted. name any section of your network that 
137 customers could be down and you go almost the whole day without a single 
person calling or powercycling

    On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

      Steve, it reminds me of that Star Trek movie where V’ger insists the 
coded message be delivered in person, so it can join with the Creator.  I hope 
you like bald chicks in shorty bathrobes.


      From: That One Guy /sarcasm
      Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:25 PM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

      thats what im saying, all the modems on their node are offline, but they 
say theres no outage

      On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        Unless I am missing something shouldn’t the cable company be able to do 
a remote power cycle on that modem? 



        From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
        Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:22 PM
        To: [email protected]


        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] please reboot


        Do it right, do it well or don't do it at all?





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        Mike Hammett
        Intelligent Computing Solutions
        http://www.ics-il.com







        Midwest Internet Exchange
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        From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]>
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

        you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks 
a month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1 or 
a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id be 
interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site after we 
pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only thing we 
make any money there on is the hosted email.



        On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        No cable.  Only paying for fiber.






        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373



        On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I 
assume you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last 
mile the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems.



        On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

          Yes.  You're paying the cable company for the service when you should 
be providing it yourself.






          Josh Luthman
          Office: 937-552-2340
          Direct: 937-552-2343
          1100 Wayne St
          Suite 1337
          Troy, OH 45373



          On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I 
called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 
modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 
50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here?




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