Do people ask your advice and then do the opposite?

From: Gino Villarini 
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 12:30 PM
To: mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP use with Itelite-sector-xl-2.45dualband-2xdual

I feel for you josh... 



Gino A. Villarini 
@gvillarini



On May 24, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:


  But not mine?!

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On May 24, 2015 12:18 PM, "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

    Wow… 



    I trust your judgment Chuck.  What did you replace them with?



    Paul



    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
    Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:52 AM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP use with Itelite-sector-xl-2.45dualband-2xdual



    Paul, the 2.4GHz experience with these antennas is horrible.  When I say 
horrible, I mean horrible.  5GHz works fine for the most part.




    Regards,
    Chuck



    On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

    I haven't tried it and it sounds like Chuck is *ahem* chucking them off the 
tower.

    Can't comment on the latter :)

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On May 23, 2015 11:37 PM, "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

    Well, obviously the dual band part is attractive…  was just wondering if an 
1/16”  steel backing  would help it.  Would cost much, and still retains the 
lesser tower rent per month.  4 extra sectors = $ 200+ per month



    Anybody using a competitors dual band product successfully



    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
    Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 11:27 PM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP use with Itelite-sector-xl-2.45dualband-2xdual



    Throw it off the tower and put something else in its place?



    Short of building a big metal wall (which may not work, just guessing) I'm 
not sure what you could do.






    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373



    On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

    Is there a way to further shield the back to make it acceptable ?



    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
    Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 8:24 PM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP use with Itelite-sector-xl-2.45dualband-2xdual



    We're abandoning the use of these in sites.  2.4 in V/H is the first 
problem.  F/B as JL suggested.  The antenna itself is not at the higher level 
of desirability, but in a pinch where you might need to retain space and such 
it might work out ok.  I wouldn't put it in my WISP anymore though.




    Regards,
    Chuck



    On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

    It helps to use the version with the built in enclosure... it gets you an 
extra layer of metal on the back that kind of works as shielding.



    On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> 
wrote:

    I have some ITElite 2.4GHz sectors, still on the ground due to the poor F/B 
ratio.

    Gain is really good in testing though. I'm going to put something else up 
to shield the back.





      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Josh Luthman 

      To: af@afmug.com 

      Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 4:35 PM

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP use with Itelite-sector-xl-2.45dualband-2xdual



      The F/B ratio is shit.  Complete shit.  Garbage.  Just awful.  I've got 
several sites where the 180* actually has more gain than front facing (ie I 
hear east better than west while being a mile or two west of the tower). 



      The hardware is a joke, but workable.



      Forward 5 GHz gain seems about right.  2 GHz gain may be lacking, though 
I suspect it isn't.






      Josh Luthman
      Office: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373



      On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

      We are curious to see how this antenna compares in a 4 sector arrangement 
with the Cambium ePMP APs, GPS synced?   

      
http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/Multi-Band-Antennas//SECTOR-XL-245dual-band2xdual-HV.html



      Has anybody used enough of these to have any real world feedback?



      Paul





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