I use a drill doctor also, but with the ability to do a split point.  I
have found the split point to help immensely in getting the bit started.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:

> I was doing some cable work on the second story of our local bank and had
> to drill some holes through the floor and rented a rotary hammer for the
> job. I forgot to tell the folks in neighboring offices that I was about to
> set that thing off for the first hole. Some poor lady showed up in the door
> of the room I was working in with eyes as big as saucers and a very
> startled look on her face. For subsequent holes I ran from office to office
> warning everyone prior to drilling the hole.
>
> That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
>>
>> Rotary hammers, fucking beasts.
>>
>> We were talking about our tapered bits. We have tons with one dull ring.
>> 46 bucks for 20 holes adds up.
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2015 10:00 PM, "Jason McKemie" <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     I must have never used a rotary hammer then, hammer drills seem to
>>     work just fine for stone, masonry, etc.
>>
>>     On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
>>     <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Rotary hammer very different beast than hammer drill which is
>>         only good for stuff like tapcons.
>>         *From:* Jason McKemie
>>         *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 8:08 PM
>>         *To:* af@afmug.com
>>         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits
>>         Yeah, never use anything but a hammer drill on stone/concrete/etc.
>>
>>         On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Josh Reynolds
>>         <j...@spitwspots.com> wrote:
>>
>>             What you want for the concrete is a rotary hammer. A
>>             little spendy and the bit cost is astronomical, but they
>>             will bite through granite like it's nothing in seconds. We
>>             use rotary hammers for rohn wall mount kits going into
>>             brick, concrete, and stone. Have only tried the corded
>>             hitachi's, although dewalt has a cordless one I've been
>>             keeping my eye on.
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-DH40MRY-16-inch-Rotary-Hammer/dp/B000XVINQY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1433378353&sr=8-4&keywords=hitachi+rotary+hammer
>>             is what we've used.
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DCH253M2-Mode-Rotary-Hammer/dp/B00DD1UOTU/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1433378421&sr=8-9&keywords=dewalt+rotary+hammer
>>             is the one I've had my eye on.
>>
>>             Josh Reynolds
>>             CIO, SPITwSPOTS
>>             www.spitwspots.com  <http://www.spitwspots.com>
>>
>>             On 06/03/2015 02:37 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>             We are trying different brands for 3/32 holes we need for
>>>             door contacts and switches.   Metal is tough then we hit
>>>             concrete on door frame.  Slow speeds and oil helps but we
>>>             eat them up.  For concrete and cinder block walls Hilti
>>>             drill and bits have no problem.
>>>
>>>             Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>>             On Jun 3, 2015 4:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"
>>>             <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>>
>>>                 You can do it by hand with a bit of practice.
>>>                 *From:* Glen Waldrop
>>>                 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:24 PM
>>>                 *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>>>                 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits
>>>                 My dad has always sharpened his own, so I tend to do
>>>                 the same.
>>>
>>>                 In my experience, if used in wood they can be
>>>                 sharpened with little issue. If you drill through
>>>                 metal, buy a new one.
>>>                 It loses some of the hardness on the edge. It really
>>>                 needs to be tempered again after sharpening.
>>>
>>>                     ----- Original Message -----
>>>                     *From:* Rory Conaway
>>>                     *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>>>                     *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:18 PM
>>>                     *Subject:* [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits
>>>
>>>                     We are paying $15-$25 for longer drill bits.
>>>              When they start to get dull, just wondering if
>>>                     anyone has had success sharpening them or do you
>>>                     just buy new ones?
>>>
>>>                     *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO*
>>>
>>>                     *4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>>
>>>                     *602-426-0542 <tel:602-426-0542>*
>>>
>>>                     *r...@triadwireless.net*
>>>
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>>>                     <http://www.triadwireless.net>*
>>>
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>>>
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>>>                     interpersonal communication means getting the
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>>>
>>>
>>
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