The pain comes from filling out the form 100 times.
Couldn't the site send us a cookie so it knows we've already filled the form?

Also, Ken (and others), to save you the extremely arduous and devilishly 
painful effort of filling out a form *gasp!* to get it... here's the spec sheet.

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 12:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart powersupply

Ken -

There's some discussion and info on the C3VoIP-200 here:

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/WISP-Business/C3VoIP-Gateways-Models/td-p/39723/page/2

There will be a webinar on it on Tuesday, June 9th, also, so you can ask 
questions live:  http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/company/webinars

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 12:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart powersupply

Model just released has 802.11b/g/n with 2 external antennas, but yes includes 
VoIP.

I don't see a user guide on the Cambium website.  I may have to order one and 
play with it.  We currently use Cisco ATAs in bridge mode ahead of the customer 
router and give them a private IP completely separate from the router.  I'm not 
clear on whether this device will work in a similar manner.
Also our managed CPE routers are all Mikrotik and remotely managed via Winbox, 
I assume this is probably OpenWRT based, we have had nothing but bad 
experiences with every brand of home routers and I would approach any new 
device with skepticism.  You often don’t know you've deployed a bunch of crap 
routers for a year or more when they start failing.

That said, consolidating the POE, router and ATA functions in one box would 
simplify the rats nest of wires.  And the industry is moving toward ISPs 
providing a WiFi router, DSL and cable is pretty much all that way.

If everything else was good, and the price was right, I guess I wouldn't sweat every 
customer having a phone jack on their "modem" even if 95% didn't use it.  Could 
save a future truck roll.  Assuming remote management.
Depends on how much cost it adds.


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 11:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart powersupply

Mark, I guess you could look at the C3VOIP200 since it includes
Canopy/ePMP compatible POE on the WAN port.
I so wish they made a version of it with WIFI and without VOIP.



"Find the thin wire coming off the 1” block and follow that to the
power supply."

9/10 times, the customer will argue with me that it doesn't run to
anything because they can't find it in their mess of wires.  Or that
it runs to their router (because the Router power cord looks the same
size)




On 6/5/2015 10:27 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
Interesting.   I always found it pretty easy to troubleshoot.

On the back of the router find the 3” long flat black cable that goes
into
a 1” square black box.   Is it plugged into the WAN port on the router?
Oh -
you plugged that flat black cord into the wall jack?  Swap the ends - the
flat black cord goes in the router.   Find the cord plugged into the  1”
box
and follow that to the wall jack.  Is it plugged in securely at both
ends?
Find the thin wire coming off the 1” block and follow that to the power
supply.  Is it plugged in and the green light on?  No?  Plug it in.   If
the
green light is on unplug the power supply and tell me if the light
goes out
right away.   It fades away slowly?  Then there is a break in the wire
between the power supply and the equipment outside?  Oh - your
husband wacked that wire with his hedge trimmer?  Yeah - that might
possibly be the problem.


Mark


On Jun 5, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

We've been using the Tycon's for quite a while as well.  We found it
next to impossible to trouble shoot the Cambium power supply with a
customer.
They could never comprehend what it was, and always tried to plug in
a PC to the POE Jumper.  The Tycon's are nice, because you can
describe the white box, with 2 plugs on one side (AC and LAN), and
one plug on the other (poe).
Is there a yellow or green light, The Cable from outside plugs into
the end with only 1 plug.




On 6/5/2015 9:50 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I never used it anyway, prefer Tycon POE-24iR-CI.  And yes, a patch
cord, but those come in various lengths and colors rather than the
short little stub which is limiting.


-----Original Message----- From: Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart
power supply

So is anyone else unhappy with Cambium’s decision to EOL the
traditional power supply?

The replacement part is a Ubiquiti or ePMP brick style.   It costs
more,
does not include the power cord, and requires an additional CAT5
jumper cable.

While the current supply has it’s issues (hard to plug into a power
strip) it’s simple to troubleshoot over the phone with a customer with
limited ways to screw it up.   I think this is going to create more
‘miswire’ service calls.


Mark




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