It’s easy for Cisco to piss people off … all of the major vendors have pros/cons.
I worked extremely hard at my old job to remove everything Cisco from the network after they turned their back on me – long story short but I had to chase them for 8 weeks to send a sales person 90 minute drive to see me regarding spending MANY millions of dollars on upgrades. I finally got pissed off after chasing THEM for 2 months … obviously the sales people didn’t need the commissions involved. After that fiasco, I worked hard to bring Juniper into place. This was a rewarding experience and no looking back. While their gear isn’t better than Cisco (but also isn’t worse) – their support and dealings with me at the time were amazing. Now, I’ve been with a new employer for 6 months and we use Juniper for routing and Cisco for switching pretty much. Pretty happy with both vendors overall and don’t see us making any changes in this strategy as it is working well and pretty serious investments to start changing vendors “just because”. Ironically, in these 6 months we’ve had more issues with Juniper gear than the Cisco (which at my old job it was the opposite)… the current issues with Juniper are mainly software related with BRAS on MX platform. We had a 2X100G+8X10G linecard failure recently too but I didn’t consider that too major as it was brand new… Having said all of that – I still lean more towards Juniper overall…. They are priced better than Cisco typically, outperform a lot of the comparative Cisco gear (depending on what you are comparing), and support is similar between the two (both hit and miss). For me, I really like CLI and configuration of the boxes much better too. My two cents worth… Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 11:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off I would like Extreme, but I wasn't able to get the new pricing I was hoping to get. Juniper and Extreme are both at about $10k for a 48x10GigE 4x40GigE switch. I haven't received pricing from anyone else on comparable switches. Extreme has the benefit of a fairly mature MPLS implementation. I'm saw a good deal on some 24 port Brocades, but my partners weren't ready for the move yet. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _____ From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:40:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off Make the switch..drop the bitch...opps .. Make the switch....change the switch...Brocade for Server room. Moxa for tower sites Jaime Solorza On Jun 13, 2015 9:27 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: I would love to blow up every piece of Cisco everything. Cisco has no place in any of these networks. However, it's not my switch. ;-) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _____ From: "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us <mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:49:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off Why on earth would you use a Cisco anything when they hate WISPs We have completely removed all Cisco from our network 2 cents -Sean On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use these turds enough to remember everything. show config says: interface FastEthernet0/3 switchport access vlan 777 switchport mode access speed 100 duplex full no cdp enable ! However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following commands, it doesn't change. config terminal int Fa0/3 switchport mode trunk switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same result. I also tried removing the vlan via: interface FastEthernet 0/3 no switchport mode access no switchport access vlan 777 ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
